People that you've never heard of, people that are in the dark shadows -- US Politics September 2020

Gtfo with the performative ennui btw
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, September 27, 2020 6:10 PM

otm

lol I just heard he listed his fame as an asset.

no ennui here performative or otherwise, just a hunch. luckily it will be very easy to track whether said hunch is correct or not.

No particular instinct for how much the Trump tax news will resonate with rank-and-file voters. May depend on how much the Biden campaign chooses to emphasize it. There is a damaging headline for Trump (that he paid only $750) which is sometimes lacking in these sorts of stories.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) September 27, 2020

With the exception of the Grab Pussy tape, it's never the initial headline that hurts Trump as much as the 4 weeks he spends making it much worse via unforced errors

Curious how Trump paid FL state income taxes, which do not exist

I'm just glad because this is probably the biggest thing to happen to potentially sway my mom (who voted for him in '16) to either abstain or vote Biden. She lives in a deeply red bubble in Alabama and gets most of her news from the morning redneck radio show on her drive to work but she's a CPA and accounting/tax code is the only realm in which she's capable of critical thinking.

There may be--I hope--a few million people who voted for him because they sincerely believed he was a great businessman and that that was what the country needed (same argument that Perot, Forbes, and others--Romney too, I guess--used). Maybe it'll stick with them, and those votes will make a difference in a close election. (If the phrase "close election" even has meaning this time.)

In the end, it's all going to be true. So what the heck is going to happen if Trump pardons' literally everyone of wrong doing?

Is that possible?

Do they have to already been convicted or can you like literally print up a 'get outta jail free' card?

You cant preemptively pardon anybody, no. Essentially as I understand it accepting a pardon is admission of guilt.

Of course, you can dangle the prospect, but that as we all know is obstruction of justice, and no one ever gets away with that.

I agree this probably not going to get any trump voters to vote for biden, but I can see it depressing turnout a small but material amount among his alleged base of Obama 08/trump 16 white works by class voters.

Uhhhh...

BREAKING NEWS: President Donald Trump's former campaign manager is reportedly in a Fort Lauderdale hospital after barricading himself in his home, armed and making threats. https://t.co/IHbkg1kHdV

— WPLG Local 10 News (@WPLGLocal10) September 28, 2020

He started early.

Lol

Alternately, he read the NYT story and realized that maybe he wasn’t getting any more money.

Forthcoming Trump campaign statement: he was a minor functionary who may have brought us coffee once

The state with the prettiest name!

Well, that's two major stories in one Sunday. We've got a couple more hours for a third.

Noooo Parscale don’t do it you’re so sexy haha

xp - What, the Rock's endorsement doesn't count as a major story to you?

Rock's endorsement video is interesting in that he doesn't mention Trump once

on brand with his stay positive crap

I guess The Rock counts but I 100% expect to wake up to at least one more bonkers story

Raymond Cummings raises a good point. We have not yet heard from Hulk Hogan.

lol

I don’t know who’s considering what - Warren would 86 the filibuster and Bernie would pack the court and so on, but Schumer doesn’t want to eliminate the filibuster, no one in the moderate and elderly part of the Senate wants to pack the court, and there’s no chance they admit two new states on a 51-49 party line vote.

People are scaremongering about the Court if the GOP regained power but they’d be much quicker to create East, West and Central Dakota if they hold all three bodies again.

― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, September 27, 2020 4:22 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

OK, so why does this make Ezra Klein credulous? I think he would largely agree with you on all of this.

Hulk Hogan endorses Peter Thiel for whatever

I was just going to reference that shit heel Thiel

OK, so why does this make Ezra Klein credulous? I think he would largely agree with you on all of this.

According to him, he does not agree with me, he thinks all of that is very much possible:
"I’m not going to call this a prediction, but it is a possibility."

"... and the vision of the Senate that he is convincing Democrats to embrace, the reforms he might, at last, convince them to make."

"The singular lesson Senate Democrats learned from the Obama years was McConnell simply wouldn’t let them govern if they retook the majority." - Ezra apparently has not heard Joe Biden speak?

etc.

OK, well, I think it's possible, too. I don't think it will be easy (cf. Joe Manchin's comments on court packing today), but I don't think it's impossible, as you seem to think so many things are. (Biden is still polling within spitting distance in Texas, btw.)

I think lots of things are possible. I don't know how you can live in 2020 and think you know how everything's going to shake out.

Jaymc otm

social security / medicare = for all

Sometimes the day is ending and I repeat the nightly news to my husband and just go, "Well okay," then we make passionate love.

My favorite Faye Dunaway line from Network.

I don't know how you can live in 2020 and think you know how everything's going to shake out.

Because I’m listening to Biden and Biden’s team and Schumer and Feinstein and Manchin and etc. tell me all the things that aren’t possible.

The Democratic Party that wipes away the filibuster, packs the court and grants statehood to DC and Puerto Rico is a fantasy.

Maybe they’ll need to nibble at the filibuster to pass a budget - but we saw how that works in 2013. The whole thing isn’t going away, but we’ll make sure the Pentagon budget can climb over $800bn.

OK. Then capture the Democratic Party and make it a reality. But don't expect any of those outcomes to be handed to you because you like them.

If "politics is the art of the possible", then the job of progressives is to make their policies possible. The way to do that is to accrue enough political power to find candidates and back them with enough votes to win elections. Believe it or not, this is somewhat less of a mountain to climb than fomenting a proletarian revolution.

But don't expect any of those outcomes to be handed to you because you like them.

That wasn't the question, the question was "why is Ezra Klein credulous."

Ezra Klein may have said those things were possible, but he was careful not to say how possible he thought they were. iow, his credulity in this regard was played very close to the vest.

Then capture the Democratic Party and make it a reality.

Believe it or not, this is somewhat less of a mountain to climb than fomenting a proletarian revolution.

idk these seem about equally difficult to me

yikes, parscale is having a rough one

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/09/28/former-trump-campaign-manager-brad-pascale-armed-barricades-self-in-fl-home-police-called/

if i had to guess, that suggests that he has more on his mind than trump losing. there are lots of rumors swirling about him siphoning off the campaign financing to personal ends

in order to drain the swamp it was necessary to create another larger swamp to drain it into

MSNBC says this report is sending "shockwaves through the White House."

I find that very hard to believe--surely they've known for years this was coming out sooner or later.

But Brad seemed like such a nice young man!

It's always the greed. Brad, despite siphoning off millions, no doubt invested those millions in some stupid scheme.

As I said, 750 is somehow more offensive than 0

Well that was quick — the Biden team just released their first ad on the reporting released today on Trump’s taxes in the @nytimes pic.twitter.com/Cw51FUof8g

— Grace Panetta (@grace_panetta) September 28, 2020

The NYT tax story is really a breakthrough in reporting and presentation. It's thorough and dense for those looking to parse details, but there's one punchline detail that folks will remember for a long time: $750.

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) September 28, 2020