CELTICS 2010

this is it, this is the celtics mindtype on display

.@Grant2Will has fully embraced Celtic culture ☘️ pic.twitter.com/0ayDpNWEHS

— Taylor Snow (@taylorcsnow) September 26, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOBaL9GVtuE

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/fouls-3-point-shooting-daniel-theis-has-room-grow-celtics

Theis racked up 219 personal fouls, the eighth-highest total in the entire league. That’s 5.5 fouls per 36 minutes of play, making him a threat to foul out each time he touched the floor. And he did foul out four times in the postseason, including once in 21 minutes, 34 seconds of court time during Boston’s season-ending loss to Miami.

theis definitely gets officiated like he's a nobody at times, but i think a lot of is just that as an undersized starting center there are still a bunch of matchups around the league that are going to result in very long nights. usually when i see him commit fouls i would call "bad" it's not a result of being too weak but more being a step too late on the contest. they ask him to do a lot in a thankless role on both ends of the court and to his credit he's more than happy to.

even if he were to cut down his foul rate, ideally he's not a guy you're playing more than like 28 minutes a night. i think they need to look at backup center again this offseason and find one more guy who is solid defensively in most matchups and can eat up some minutes.

he had a great regular season and got housed in the offs, its tuff out there

feel like it's worth marking down for future ref that coach brad isn't a secret republican or something: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/20/nation/celtics-coach-brad-stevens-appear-with-his-doppelganger-pete-buttigieg-virtual-rally/

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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2914620-gordon-hayward-trade-rumors-pacers-continue-to-have-interest-in-celtics-star

manifesting my reality 🙏

what's the most sensible way to get the salaries to match?

something like dipo and turner for hayward a young guy and pick(s)

...depending on dipos trade value which to me seems like it should be low since he was bad last year and is on the final year of his deal

or hayward could opt out and do some sort of longer for less per year sign and trade tho i know the rules around those are pretty stringent so im not sure itd work

turner and jeremy lamb basically gets you there and lamb would be redundant if they were getting hayward. the pacers should probably make boston take back tj leaf or someone to balance the money even more.

i just don't really know why the pacers would do it.

if they got a team with massive cap space to absorb lamb's contract and take one of boston's 3 1st rounders, turner to boston and hayward to indy could still work

like:

IND gets hayward ($34.1M), mykhailiuk (1.6M)

BOS gets turner ($17.5M)

DET gets lamb ($10.5M), #26 pick (BOS)

feels pretty balanced

you've made the celtics happy as they're saving a shitload of money in that trade

turner and jeremy lamb basically gets you there and lamb would be redundant if they were getting hayward. the pacers should probably make boston take back tj leaf or someone to balance the money even more.

i just don't really know why the pacers would do it.

― call all destroyer, Friday, October 23, 2020 1:42 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

cause theyre losing dipo so they need a perimeter creator, and they have two guys they want to play at center, also theyd be getting the best player in the trade... and hes a hoosier

obvs im a well knows proponent of turner to bos but its not like hes a superstar, he cld def be played off the floor in a playoff series just by making him guard the perimeter, his 3pt shot is slow which means it can prob be mostly shut down via concerted close outs, also he doesnt rebound, but still i do think he wld be nasty on the c's and him + theis would give them a very good flexible center rotation

i think it makes sense for both teams and the celtics have draft picks/young guys they can sweeten the pot with, the thing that wld give me pause were i the pacers is haywards recent injury history, and theyd prob need some sort of agreement on a new contract since hes in his last season, not sure if a sign and trade wld work here or what

i guess the oladipo thing going south and their otherwise decent team could motivate them to try something like this, but man idk brogdon/hayward/sabonis/warren/? does not really get me excited.

but how are they supposed to put something together that does get you excited, thats prob a top 4 east seed if nothing else, and indy are on record as being anti rebuilding, so you have a pretty good team and try to work it out from there

i mean if they can find a better trade for turner obvs they take it but i doubt theyre getting back anyone better than gordo

yeah, i know, i think it’s a mental block for me. bunch of guys who i get are good but don’t love their games much.

brogdon/hayward/sabonis/warren/?

this is a v good team! theyve got GOGA coming up at C, they can probably get at the v least a strong starting level rotation player if theyre trading oladipo.

yeah, see above. it's a 4/5 seed type of team. really too bad what happened to oladipo, he was their chance to be a serious playoff team.

for sure

no one is ditching valuable role players for the privilege of paying gordon hayward $34M to put up 17/5/4

except maybe the knicks

ahem, its closer to 18/7/4 on 50/38/86 shooting splits

i think those numbers go up in a higher usage situation like indiana where he'd be the #1 wing as opposed to the #3. and that $34M is a lot, but it's also off the books in one year.

well if indiana were doing this they'd have to be getting a sense of what gordon's extension will be, obviously he's in no position to stay at $34M but my guess is it would be 3 years north of 20 which is a little scary imo.

i'll just put my bias out there, hayward's celtics career was insanely snakebit but i have watched him play basketball for the past two seasons and i don't expect him to be all that good going forward.

i get that, but he seemed to have turned a corner this year.

turning a corner at age 30? sure

ahem, its closer to 18/7/4 on 50/38/86 shooting splits

i think those numbers go up in a higher usage situation like indiana where he'd be the #1 wing as opposed to the #3. and that $34M is a lot, but it's also off the books in one year.

― cointelamateur (m bison), Saturday, 24 October 2020 2:20 PM (one hour ago)

brogdon was enticed to the pacers only a season ago, please ask him how he feels about playing second fiddle to a trump voter

look i dont even like gordon!!!! he's not s scrub player tho

no but he is overpaid and the cap might shrink.

sorry u have gordon hayward now not my problem

but i mean he is an easy 20-5-5 on high percentages and is good at basically all basketball skills

hes also a willing team player and so forth

health has been bad and hes overpaid, tho prob wont be on his next contract

hes a clear second option on offense who is also a very good playmaker, kind of guy who can fit in anywhere, positionally flexible etc

nice platitudes but they dont add up to 34M

ill take the 34M instead then if you won't give it to him

im willing to settle for 33m

is micah kevin pritchard's burner?

magical thinking pisses me off

Pacers should just let it ride this season

guess that depends on if they think they can walk dipo back from his trade demand (which he has denied btw) / if anyone is making good offers for him anyway (prob not)

read the new coach wants to play small/switchable which if they really want to do that they should trade turner to the celtics for gordon hayward

otm

gordon sneaking around smh

Gordon Hayward rumors: ‘He’s doing the Al Horford plan,’ & ‘something is mildly afoot here’ per ESPN’s Lowe Post podcast https://t.co/ce4NC4yjBS

— John Karalis 🇬🇷 (@RedsArmy_John) October 26, 2020