lol of course it's not going to actually happen but would you rather the Democrats not try it first so that they can frame it as "Justice Coney Barrett refused to recuse, she and Trump win, while Americans lose!"
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link
I mean, compared to other things they should be trying, this is VERY low on my list of importance and I wouldn't want it to take the place of promising to pack the fuck out of courts, but we're kinda fucked unless someone has a McCain surprise during the vote.
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link
@ Moodles - isn't the primary reason McConnell & co. are in such a rush that Trump has a good chance of not being President in 3.5 months? and they want to grab another Supreme Court seat for all the reasons you would expect them to want that? potentially covering his ass in a stolen election would just be the cherry on top.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link
Trump and McConnell have different motivations, but this is Trump's pick, not McConnell's
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link
technically, but which one of the two is able to exert the most control over 51 republican votes?
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link
(amy barrett, but pure coincidence, happened to be exactly who mcconnell was pushing for)
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link
trump, on the other hand, has the federalist society publish a list for him so that he can make his fantasy list of 25 candidates (which included tom cotton and ted cruz) seem more legit. i'm sure they arranged it in a way so that trump felt that was the crucial decisionmaker who made the tough call, but there are probably a dozen other people that had more to do with this pick than trump
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link
Lucky for them there are so many justices out there willing to both undermine the integrity of a major election and nuke Roe v Wade. Funny how those interests conveniently line up.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link
xp
I think you are sort of right to extent. Trump is obviously not hand picking justices based on some deep judicial reasoning. But rest assured, he's asking any potential justice one question and one question only, and if they don't give the correct answer, they aren't going in front of the Senate.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link
by the time it gets to trump, it's like "oh great leader, we just simply can't decide between the bounty of perfect candidates on your list! you are so impressive, you know much more about their judicial record than ANY other person we have ever met! please, decide for us with your strength and genius! we have OPTION 1) Amy Barrett, OPTION 2) Barbara Lagoa, or OPTION 3) Michelle Obama. and also many people are saying barack obama favors Lagoa over his own wife! george bush also prefers Lagoa. Please decide for us with your wisdom and intuition!"
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link
haha, sorry. i am in an extremely goofy mood this morning. i think they'd actually do a version of ^^ in the earlier stages, before whittling it down to a set of "options" where he actually can't mess it up
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link
Perhaps rather than asking "will you recuse yourself?" they should be asking "did the president request you rule in his favor if the election is contested?"
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link
Certainly possible
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link
This goes to a larger pet peeve about these confirmation hearings, which is that there are always questions about how someone might rule in this or that case, and the answer is always that they can't speculate about a hypothetical situation. It's a meaningless line of inquiry designed as a gotcha that no one actually cares about.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link
The whole notion that these are not political picks driven by an obvious agenda is so out of date and ridiculous, it would be better to drop the pretense.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link
Yes how can we expect lawyers and judges to speculate about hypotheticals
― rob, Saturday, 26 September 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link
The point is, they don't. It doesn't matter what we expect. We've seen this game play out over and over, so expecting it to change is folly.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 26 September 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link
If you are expecting any of this to operate under a set of unwritten norms that were trashed years ago, you are being played.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 26 September 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link
my homie is seriously sharing this op ed and trying to accept Amy w an open mind and open heart so I guess he’s just a Sorkin Republican now jfchttps://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/09/26/ive-known-amy-coney-barrett-15-years-liberals-have-nothing-fear/
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 26 September 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link
lol
also by "O. Carter Snead" a name designed to make me want to punch the personhttps://www.hoover.org/research/planned-parenthoods-hostages
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 26 September 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link
There is nothing to fear about Barrett’s intellect. She has an incandescent mind that has won the admiration of colleagues across the ideological spectrum.
getting Rich Lowry flashbacks
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 September 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link
Sooooo fucking tired of SCOTUS nominees called "brilliant" as if what they do requires anything other than keeping the clerks happy as they cobble your opinion together.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 September 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link
I for one was worried that she was actually illiterate.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 26 September 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link
The GOP has been functionally illiterate since 1981.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 September 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link
Those concerns assuaged, I look forward to strapping on my legally mandated cilice every morning to get me ready to face the day.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 26 September 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link
time to invest in chastity belt manufacturers
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 26 September 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link
i think i saw incandescent mind open for gene loves jezebel in '87
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 26 September 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link
Clasping hands meme with BDSM nerds and Opus Dei
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 26 September 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link
XpostMoodles, I wasn’t disagreeing with you
― rob, Saturday, 26 September 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link
Whatever hearing we get out of this will be pointless
― rob, Saturday, 26 September 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link
Here's the only likely way she doesn't get confirmed before Election Day:
https://i.imgur.com/HzAVTWk.png
― pplains, Saturday, 26 September 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link
The Hill reports:
The Senate Judiciary Committee will start a four-day hearing for President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee on Oct. 12, two people familiar with the schedule confirmed to The Hill.
Though other nominees have been confirmed in fewer days, they were further away from the presidential election. Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) is expected to announce the committee’s schedule later Saturday.
Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh, Trump’s first two Supreme Court nominees, both had nearly two months between their formal nominations and the start of their hearings. Under the schedule set by Graham, Amy Coney Barrett will have little more than two weeks.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 26 September 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link
telling myself O. Carter Snead is a (well, another) Virgil Texas pseudonym.
― get a mop and a bucket for this Well Argued Prose (Simon H.), Saturday, 26 September 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link
Snead also wrote this piece of garbage. Fuck them and anybody falling for this ruse of a piece.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/planned-parenthood-will-forgo-payment-for-fetal-tissue-so-now-its-ok-because-its-free
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Saturday, 26 September 2020 23:37 (three years ago) link
Almost as if perhaps they're just hoping gullible, tired liberals will let their guard down so they can get their way on abortion
Democracy dies in darkness IIRC
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 26 September 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link
oh no
🚨 LIMITED EDITION: Show your support for Pres. Trump’s Supreme Court nominee, Judge Amy Coney Barrett, with your very own Notorious A.C.B. t-shirt! Claim yours here ⬇️https://t.co/qi1eWqTz17— The Senate Majority (@NRSC) September 26, 2020
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Saturday, 26 September 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link
Great, offensive on two levels and counting
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Saturday, 26 September 2020 23:53 (three years ago) link
Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski, who doesn't support taking up a SCOTUS nomination, now says she'll meet with Amy Coney Barrett https://t.co/jSviJQC8u9 pic.twitter.com/Mo443lGUaP— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) September 26, 2020
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 27 September 2020 00:07 (three years ago) link
BREAKING: Contrary to theories advanced by certain credulous journalists, Lisa Murkowski is, in fact, a member of the Republican Party.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 27 September 2020 00:11 (three years ago) link
A.C.(a).B.
― Just a few slices of apple, Servant. Thank you. How delicious. (stevie), Sunday, 27 September 2020 06:19 (three years ago) link
Isn't Question 2b for appointees "Will you invalidate the ACA?"
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 September 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link
"do you pledge to merely dismantle the ACA, or will you pledge to completely obliterate it along with any cultural memory of its existence? and i just hope democrats and the lying media don't make a spectacle out of these serious proceedings"
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 27 September 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link
"Judge Barrett, will you invalidate the ACA?"
She'll just look serious and intone that every case is different, so if such a case is argued before the court, she will read all the briefs, consider all the arguments and arrive at the decision that seems to her most in alignment with the US Constitution and established precedent. If she even says that much.
"Judge Barrett, do you believe that God's law is higher than human laws? And is God's law contained in the christian Bible?"
At least this line of questioning will require her to get off autopilot.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 27 September 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link
According to this article they won’t ask anything tough:
Senate Democrats say they want to avoid a replay of the bitter fighting that characterized Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh's 2018 Senate confirmation hearings, which centrist former Sens. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) and Joe Donnelly (D-Ind.) thought cost them their reelection bids that year.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/518669-senate-democrats-want-to-avoid-kavanaugh-20
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 23:06 (three years ago) link
So no questions re why she always rules for corporations over workers
Her highest-profile business-focused actions on the federal bench have limited the enforcement of age-discrimination laws, restricted federal agencies power to punish companies that mislead consumers and reduced consumers’ rights against predatory debt collectors, according to a recent report from the Alliance for Justice.
[/i]Barrett’s August ruling in the overtime case is particularly significant: It comes as technology companies have been trying to use mandatory arbitration clauses to avoid better remunerating so-called gig workers. Those provisions often force worker disputes to be decided by private arbitrators hand-picked by the companies, rather than in an impartial court of law. [/i]
Dave Sirota website https://www.dailyposter.com/p/barrett-crushed-gig-workers-weeks
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 23:14 (three years ago) link
I think senate dems would probably be more inclined to attack her rulings if they actually disagreed with them
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 00:25 (three years ago) link
Invalidating the ACA would at least accelerate the Single Payer debate America should’ve had 70 years ago like the rest of the industrialized world. The West Coast and New York will pass their own versions of it and then wait decades for the rest of the country to catch up
― beamish13, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 00:30 (three years ago) link
So is this 2006 open letter about Roe vs. Wade worth anything? My guess is NO.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 2 October 2020 01:20 (three years ago) link
Fewer pregnant women means fewer people giving up their seats on buses to pregnant women which leads to an overall decline in societal courtesy which leads to more shootings on buses which leads to fewer people willing to ride buses which leads to more carbon emissions which leads to global warming.
checkmate libs.
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:24 (three days ago) link
hey I like to jack it to aborted babies. why don't you care about my aesthetic joy?
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:39 (three days ago) link