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I wonder if there have been more slash triple crowns vs traditional.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 24 September 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

I'd assume yes, just because RBIs are situational/luck-based whereas pure slash is not.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 24 September 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link

xps those salvador stats probably came after his game last night, where he already had 2 HRs and 5 RBI off of Carlos Martinez when i turned out around the 4th inning, before Martinez came out of the game with an injury.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 September 2020 22:15 (three years ago) link

so yes, way more slash triple crown winners. 47 of them vs 18 regular. the first person to win it: Piano Legs Gore.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 25 September 2020 13:37 (three years ago) link

I doubt it will happen, but if Bauer were to win the Cy Young, it would be the first time that award was won by a Reds pitcher. I'd figure Bucky Walters might have won that award if they had it back in the late 30s, as he won an MVP and the pitching triple crown.

The Padres have had four different winners.

Kind of a fluky thing when you think about it.

earlnash, Saturday, 26 September 2020 00:36 (three years ago) link

Well now I’m trying to guess who the four Padres are.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 26 September 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link

trevor hoffman, andy benes and tony gwynn iirc

mookieproof, Saturday, 26 September 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link

where have you gone, Randy Jones

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 26 September 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link

surely one for Trevor Hoffman

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 26 September 2020 02:05 (three years ago) link

wrong on Hoffman but I correctly remembered the late-career HOFer who won one with SD (first of two seasons there)

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 26 September 2020 02:12 (three years ago) link

Phil Niekro should've won that year, only time he led the league's pitchers in WAR*

*Awards blow

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 26 September 2020 02:19 (three years ago) link

it's okay -- the mets have a no-hitter and the padres don't

mookieproof, Saturday, 26 September 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link

i also guessed hoffman, benes, and gwynn.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 26 September 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link

Mario Soto or Jose Rijo possibly should have won a CY--they had some great years, though I'd have to check how the timing went.

clemenza, Saturday, 26 September 2020 16:12 (three years ago) link

Probably behind a paywall, but Jayson Stark's picks:

http://theathletic.com/2090616/2020/09/25/stark-handing-out-my-2020-awards-from-cy-young-to-cy-yuk-mvp-to-lvp/

(Abreu and Freeman, Bieber and Bauer.)

I read that awful underrated/overrated book of his, so not particularly a fan.

clemenza, Saturday, 26 September 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

Rijo led Maddux p comfortably in WAR in '93.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 26 September 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I looked it up...There was a good argument to be made for Soto in '82 or '83, but it wasn't clear-cut either year (he slightly trailed Rogers in '82 and Denny in '83 in bWAR; Denny won, Rogers finished second).

clemenza, Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link

on the other side of that, fWAR puts soto 8th for '83, behind:


Steve Carlton 7.4
John Denny 5.8
Rick Rhoden 5.0
Steve Rogers 4.9
Jerry Reuss 4.8
Atlee Hammaker 4.6
John Candelaria 4.5
Mario Soto 4.5
Larry McWilliams 4.3
Fernando Valenzuela 4.2

Karl Malone, Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link

poor steve carlton

Karl Malone, Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

Poor Atlee Hammaker! (Seven earned runs in 0.2 innings at that year's AS Game.)

clemenza, Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

truly, poor atlee hammaker. i have to admit that i didn't even recognize his name!

Karl Malone, Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link

look at all those pirates

in the last 25 years, exactly two pirate pitchers have topped larry mcwilliams' 4.3 fWAR in a season -- gerrit cole in 2015 (5.1) and oliver perez in 2004 (4.5)

mookieproof, Saturday, 26 September 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

well, i think degrom is now out of the NL cy equation : /

mookieproof, Saturday, 26 September 2020 21:12 (three years ago) link

Jake Peavy! I'm also guessing Gaylord Perry, which is probably a longshot because he played for so many teams.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 26 September 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link

Yup. Those are the easy ones.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 26 September 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link

I see now that I'm a day late on this trivia question and they everyone has looked up the answer by now ... carry on.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 26 September 2020 23:27 (three years ago) link

I assume Brandon Lowe will be Top 5 in AL MVP?

clemenza, Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link

Using the ILB fantasy league categories as guidelines:

NL MVP: Freeman
AL MVP: JRamirez
NL CY: Darvish
AL CY: Bieber
NL ROY: Dustin May
AL ROY: Kyle Lewis (barely edging Luis Robert & Cristian Javier)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 28 September 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link

Name them after Frank Robinson, the only player to win in both leagues. https://t.co/Nwa9syw0wJ

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) October 2, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 October 2020 22:55 (three years ago) link

The awards will be nameless in 2020.

honestly, this is the first time i learned they had a name!

idkwtf (Karl Malone), Friday, 2 October 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link

i didnt know til this year. Mike Schmidt got some ink for pushing for the change.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 3 October 2020 00:00 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Another well deserved award for @ncboomstick23!

Nelson Cruz has been named the 2020 Marvin Miller Man of the Year, an award voted on by his peers as the player they "most respect based on his leadership on the field and in the community." Congrats Nellie! #MNTwins pic.twitter.com/WALetzuOyK

— Minnesota Twins (@Twins) October 22, 2020

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 October 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link

I don't think you can say for sure whether Cruz will be mostly remembered for the eight home runs or the play in game 6 until some time passes.
― clemenza, Saturday, October 29, 2011 12:07 PM

Seeing as nobody's blaming him *now* for blowing the game, it's safe to say that he won't be remembered for it...Let's agree to revive the thread in five years and discuss it then.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, October 29, 2011 2:48 PM (Two different posts joined together)

We have a date. Between two days of perspective and five years, I'll go for the five years.
― clemenza, Saturday, October 29, 2011 5:12 PM

Nine years later: NoTime was right, I was wrong.

clemenza, Friday, 23 October 2020 00:18 (three years ago) link

Funny how you revived this the day before a more memorable all-time defensive screw up in the WS.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 25 October 2020 06:45 (three years ago) link

I wonder if there was even one baseball fan, in 2011, who thought that Cruz (31 at the time) would go on to hit 300+ HR.

clemenza, Sunday, 25 October 2020 08:19 (three years ago) link

When he hit free agency, the consensus was you'd be crazy to give him a multi-year deal and overpay for 25-30 HR/year (with a .300 OBP and bad defense, assuming that his skills didn't fall off a cliff in his mid-30's). And somehow he ended up on the shortlist of the greatest 40-year old hitters ever.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 25 October 2020 08:31 (three years ago) link

Holy shxx the Rays won game 4? I figured it was done and turned it off.

earlnash, Sunday, 25 October 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link

How could you turn off a back and forth game like that?!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 25 October 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link

Liam Hendricks wins Reliever of the Year

1.4 fWAR (2nd in MLB RPs to Devin Williams)
1.1 bWAR (2nd in MLB RPs to his teammate Jake Diekman*)

*Diekman's fWAR is 0.5, earning him 49th place of all MLP RPs... which is why I'm always fascinated to compare these two sites.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 26 October 2020 22:16 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

1.4 fWAR (2nd in MLB RPs to Devin Williams)

Williams takes NL ROY

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 01:05 (three years ago) link

Lewis unanimous in the AL.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 04:34 (three years ago) link

god bless devin williams but ffs he threw 27 innings

mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 04:39 (three years ago) link

Did he ever.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 04:46 (three years ago) link

yeah it was the one bright spot of our season come on

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 04:48 (three years ago) link

he was the one bright spot of 5% of your season

mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 04:55 (three years ago) link

yeah that's right

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 04:59 (three years ago) link

AL MVP: Abreu!

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 13 November 2020 00:09 (three years ago) link

Anyone predict that? Clemenza? Morbs?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 13 November 2020 00:09 (three years ago) link

Seems like a pretty good vote. Freeman surprised me--I thought it'd be Betts or Tatis.

clemenza, Friday, 13 November 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link

One man’s mistake is another man’s claim to an NL MVP vote. Thanks Rick! Honored by the vote. 😂 https://t.co/wsqJpbHpcN

— Ryan Tepera (@RTepera) November 13, 2020

mookieproof, Friday, 13 November 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link


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