PS.. is it 5? I think we're on 5 now. PS5

well that kind of defeats the whole purpose, hoping it will just let me install from disc like the ps4 does.

the only reasons it should download anything is specific games needing bc patches for stability and of course the regular ps4 patches that almost every game has, fetching the whole thing when i have it locally in a blu-ray is just ridiculous

i think people are talking about games with ps5 enhanced versions. you obviously can't install an improved ps5 version of a game from the ps4 disc since it's not on there.

oh, that's what you mean
yeah, PS5 runs PS4 games the same way they run now, it isn't even emulation so much as PS5 is just an upgraded PS4, PC-style.

they do have to be tested and whitelisted by sony first i think but they've said 99% of ps4 games will work on day 1

From what I understand upgrading to enhanced versions may be Pyrric victories, since yeah, you're going to have to buy the new PS5 version one way or another anyway to *get* that enhanced version. And in the case of Spiderman, as reported even upgrading to the PS5 version won't port over your saves or anything. So if you have the PS4 version of a game, you should likely be able to play the PS4 version on the PS5. But if you want the PS5 version of anything you're going to have to pay ... something.

I just want Tokyo Jungle

amen

you're going to have to buy the new PS5 version one way or another anyway to *get* that enhanced version

That's not true in most cases. Spiderman is a particularly confusing exception though, because they're actually going to have two different PS5 versions - one "standard", and one "enhanced", the standard PS5 version will be a free upgrade from the PS4 version (which you don't have to buy, and can activate with the original disc or original download etc) but to get the enhanced one you'll need to either buy the Ultimate Edition of Miles Morales on PS4, or buy the same ultimate edition on PS5. Or at least that's the general shape of it, I spent ages yesterday juggling other news sources trying to get an accurate explanation for this and they all seemed to be confused too one way or another so I might still have some bits wrong.

But yeah if you want to upgrade (eg) your PS4 Witcher 3 to the PS5 version, that's properly free. Same is true for most of the games on that list I shared upthread.

Tokyo jungle btw is currently playable on PS4 via PS Now. Guessing the PS Now library is mostly going to just carry straight over to PS5 though I don't think they've said much about that yet.

Playstation Plus Collection: https://www.cbr.com/playstation-plus-collection-ps-now-shortcomings/

sorry that's not the best link. here's what buying a ps5 and subbing to their yearly service gets you:

God of War
The Last of Us: Remastered
Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End
Battlefield 1
Monster Hunter World
Fallout 4
Final Fantasy XV
The Last Guardian
Ratchet and Clank
Infamous: Second Son
Days Gone
Bloodborne
Detroit: Become Human
Batman Arkham Knight
Mortal Kombat X
Persona 5
Until Dawn
Resident Evil: Biohazard

> they do have to be tested and whitelisted by sony first i think but they've said 99% of ps4 games will work on day 1

i think the testing and whitelisting is only for the PS5 boost mode improvements in back-compat (to avoid further confusion, NOT talking about the enhanced PS5 versions that are effectively PS5 games, I mean actual PS4 games running in boost mode on the 5), for the legacy modes all games with few exceptions should run fine, like base PS4 games do in the ps4 pro

whoa, that's pretty cool! as long as they don't bump up the price of Playstation Plus to $125/yr or some bullshit

“Marvel’s Spider-Man: Remastered is an enhanced version of Marvel’s Spider-Man, and is included as part of Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales Ultimate Edition for the PlayStation 5. In addition, players who purchase Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales on PlayStation 4 can upgrade at no additional cost to the PS5 version of Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales and can take advantage of a paid-upgrade to download Marvel’s Spider-Man: Remastered.”

Regarding the above.. how long until PS Now/PS+/PS+ Collection get merged and they do end up bumping the price? Fortunately Game Pass is still so cheap generally (gotta be at a loss) that I think they'll refrain from charging more than MS does

yeah gamepass has to be a 'take a loss to get a userbase then figure it out later' thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaAY-jAjm0w

what?? it’s as big as a man’s torso!

it is the chunkiest of systems

It's like a cross between a 3-ring binder and a boogie board.

chonky bytes

the furniture my tv sits on literally isn’t big enough to hold that

it's supposed to replace that furniture

yeah, i have no idea where i'm putting that

I can't wait for the second wave of these to become available so I can get one and my partner can go "uh what is this giant thing you put in the living room" and I can answer "I'M SPIDERMAN, WHEEEEEEEEEEEE"

Uh, the PS5 digital is shipping with a 1tb drive and 664gb of free space, which likely isn't much more than enough to hold the games that the PS+ Collection comes with! You're gonna need a 5tb external attached to this dang thing, which only increases the bulk.

Anyone who installs both Demon’s Souls and Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales Ultimate Edition will find their hard drive space taking up 171GB, which is roughly 20 percent of the entire storage.

i love that they did this video

do you really need all 20 games in the ps+ collection installed at once? they're mostly single player games that have an end

if i can't play anything at any given moment how do i even know i'm alive

rip and tear(down)

I wonder if how hard taking out the cap for the screw hole (@1:34 in the video) will be.

clumsy people will die instantly when they try to do it

excited to buy the sane size version with a useful hard drive size in 2023

are 2TB+ SSDs gonna get cheaper fast enough for that?

doubtful

a boy can dream

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/10/09/ps4-games-on-ps5-your-top-questions-answered/

That looks pretty reassuring.

any news about the loudness of the ps5, compared to standard model ps4s?

If it's too loud, you're too old!

WHRHRHRH whaatt? iIIRRRRR i can't hear IIRRRRHHHyouRRROovertheFRRpRRRHHHHRHRR5RHHHhh

List of PS4-only games: https://support.playstation.com/s/article/backward-compatibility?language=en_US

Not too shabby.

apparently the entire reason the ps5 is so big is to make it quieter!

the whole thing is a heatsink

pretty much. the component spacing on that mainboard is wild, just loads of space between chips

How thirsty are you for PS5 sneak peeks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TBPrYJDoDE

the user experience is bad

On the plus side, that stuff seems like the easiest to fix and refine. And at the same time, a lot of that is shit I just don't care about. Screenshots? Chatting? Not for me.

My kids were claiming I play games a lot, which ... I really don't. Maybe once or twice a week? Still, I told them if anything I need to play games *more* to stay on track, so that I can get through most of my backlog in time to buy a PS5 in two+ years.

there's no rush. i bought a ps4 in 2019 and will probably likewise buy a ps5 in 2025

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2b/0f/a0/2b0fa0601f51750dcab589083d1952ea.jpg

the user experience is bad

sure is. it's true that they could fix it later, but it seems rare that it actually happens. i'll never understand how even basic things like the screenshot interface get screwed up. here's a screenshot of the PS5 screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/iDZfBiE.png

it's hard to tell, but in the demo they just snapped a picture. but notice that the interface takes up the bottom 1/4 of the screen, and it's black instead of transparent so it covers up a 1/4 of the screenshot you're trying to capture! you have to guess at what's behind there when you frame your shot. why didn't they just make it transparent?

it's not a big deal at all, and maybe they'll fix that before launch day, but...they probably won't?