50 Best Albums of All Time According to Rolling Stone's BRAND NEW, 100% Revamped Top 500

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sock solipsist (pomenitul), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

voted Songs In The Key Of Life today cuz I have really been feeling that one lately

sleeve, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link

In case anyone wasn’t clear, my “confession” above was meant to be taken as evidence that this list is probably bad. But so we’re all the previous versions I’m sure.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

this is the best bad version yet imo

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

Also Graceland but nothing from the entire continent of Africa (or Brazil, or etc.) is ew gross, though I didn't bother looking at the full list

― rob, Tuesday, September 22, 2020 12:00 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

The Indestructible Beat Of Soweto is #497. Apparently, some clerical or technical error swapped its and Graceland's rankings.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

Quite obviously yes.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

xp to brad

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

lol at putting a greatest hits album in yr top 50

― mookieproof, Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:23 AM (forty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

'legend' is a lolworthy inclusion, indeed, but the original top 50 had chuck berry's the great twenty-eight and compilations from muddy waters and robert johnson

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

at the very least it's made me think harder than previous iterations of the list. literally any no. 1 is better than sgt. pepper's; they picked the right one imo, as what's going on is, among other things, the deeper psychedelic experience

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

It's the zeitgeistiest and least rockist one so far, which is bound to please the ILM hivemind.

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

xp
ok lol that is impressively insulting

rob, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

I am devastated my efforts at guaranteeing a top ten placement for Hearsay were a splendid failure.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

imo kind of blue is both easy to listen to and profoundly rewarding, it sounds new every time i've played it even though i also have it memorized; every musician is so totally in tune with each other and the performances are so beautifully captured that it makes you imagine the room they're playing together in, except it doesn't look like a room in one's imagination, just this otherworldly atmosphere of smoke and dark that each soloist wavers in and out of. it can be background music sure! but if you study it there's so much going on. it also captures an evolutionary instep in both miles' music and jazz music in general that there aren't a lot of other examples of!

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

it's so special that a list without it is more suspect than a list that includes it

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

Old guard doesn’t have much of a leg to stand on in that the Beatles still have 10% of the top 50 locked down.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

Why no Floyd tho. Why.

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

I don't know why but there's something about this 'aging boomer Googles info on acclaimed albums from the last three decades of popular music and hastily inserts new entries he probably hasn't actually listened to in their entirety/at all' list that's more depressing than the original.

^Old Lunch OTM

Scam Likely (morrisp), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

I don't think my dad has ever willingly listened to rap, but there is a "son, have you heard of [artist]? they were on NPR" quality to some picks. He raved about Winehouse after seeing the documentary

rob, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

i'm guessing that has more to do with the demographics of the current rs staff + whichever freelancers they reached out to than any sort of calculation xp

i for one completely forgot i submitted a list for this, wonder what was on it

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

Murmur rose from #197 to #165; AFT leapfrogged it, rising from #249 to #96; and Document fell off altogether. Not sure if this is a net gain or loss for "America's Best Rock and Roll Band."

Scam Likely (morrisp), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

Certainly an improvement over the last one!

The Good:
- Abbey Road supplanting Sgt Peppers, and 3 Beatles albums falling out of the top 10
- Prince and Stevie in the top 10, Aretha and Public Enemy in the top 20
- General integration of rap
- General demotion of Classic Rock canon
- Demotion of: U2 (previously 26), The Who (28), and The Eagles (37)

The Bad:
- Complete (?) absence of country and electronic
- Two Radiohead albums in the top 50 (and I'm a fan)
- Lauryn Hill at 10 ALL TIME is a headscratcher; if I had a prediction, Lemonade will eventually be viewed in a similar light for some reason (and I'm a fan)
- No: Coltrane, Elvis, Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Led Zeppelin, CCR, Ray Charles

Indexed, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

nm i found my ballot, it's basically this: my favorite albums of all time: a poll

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

lol same

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link

ooh I hadn't clocked no Zeppelin, that is weird!

rob, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link

Or Sabbath, although that's less surprising seeing as there wasn't any in their previous top 50 either.

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

In honesty, I recognize that it's less the result of the 'aging boomer' scenario I painted upthread than it is watching the younger set's notion of today's acclaimed music start to calcify in a bland, boomer-esque fashion. Like if I, who've been largely out of the new music loop for a decade+, recognize all of the newer entries they've plugged in, then they're playing it pretty effing safe.

Wessonality Crisis (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

if we were voting for the album that does not belong here it's amy winehouse obviously

billstevejim, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link

like i get it, she's dead and had a cool aesthetic or whatever

billstevejim, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

xxp I didn't take your 'aging boomer' scenario literally - you were OTM that it has that 'feel' (don't 2nd-guess yrself!!)

Scam Likely (morrisp), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

Are there big Tapestry stans on ilm? I'm not sure I've ever heard the whole thing, but it seems unfashionable to me in a less explicable way than, say, Legend

rob, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

Jazz fell out of the mainstream precisely because the scene started to value challenging and rewarding over pleasant to listen to. Most humans prefer the latter.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

Never mind, there are two Dylan albums in the top 20. I hate this list.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

In general there seems to have been a conscious effort to represent women - which is good! - that closely follows the NPR rankings from a year or two ago:

https://www.npr.org/2017/07/20/538307314/turning-the-tables-150-greatest-albums-made-by-women-page-15

Indexed, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

not enough Janet Jackson fans in the world, I guess

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

Tapestry falls nicely enough in line with the yacht rock revivalism juice.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link

Nice to see 'Anti'.

piscesx, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link

Anywhere this full list can be read without scrolling that wretched website?

piscesx, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

Brad otm. I wouldn't omit Beethoven's 9th from a top 30 classical compositions of all time list just for the hepcat cred.

If you truly listen to a lot of classical music, then I can't argue with this (although the 9th wouldn't be in my personal Top 30). My point is that lots of people who like Kind of Blue — maybe even own it — unfortunately don't listen to much else when it comes to jazz. It's like me saying A Lament for Epirus is one of the Top 30 Greek folk albums, when in fact it may be the only one I own.

TO BE A JAZZ SINGER YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SCAT (Jazzbo), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

I just went through the whole 500 and there are four metal bands represented: three Black Sabbath albums, two Metallica albums, and one each by Motörhead, and Van Halen. I mean, Slayer's Reign In Blood isn't more worthy of note than a King Sunny Ade compilation? (N.B.: I love King Sunny Ade.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

Anti's legacy feels pretty destined to continue expanding

billstevejim, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

Anywhere this full list can be read without scrolling that wretched website?

it's not Vice

shout-out to his family (DJP), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

My point is that lots of people who like Kind of Blue — maybe even own it — unfortunately don't listen to much else when it comes to jazz.

Of course, but this is Rolling Stone. There's only so much you can expect, alas.

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link

Songs in the Key of Life

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link

491. Harry Styles, 'Fine Line' (2019)

this is disgusting, ban rolling stone imo

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMOlkkwR2gw

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link

xxxp yes for sure. it has been in a couple of The Quietus's 'top albums of all time/ baker's dozen' lists already.

Can't work out if If You're Reading This.. instead of Nothing Was The Same is a surprise or not but i raised en eyebrow.

piscesx, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

xxp

Sheffield is a comically huge stan

Indexed, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

more like kind of blew

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

Kind of relieved in a life-is-more-understandable-this-way way that Galaxie 500 did not make that Rolling Stone list. But appalled that Abbey Road is the top ranked Beatles album

— Damon K (@dada_drummer) September 22, 2020

mookieproof, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

More like A Love Stupreme

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

ilm list is an improvement. 5 votes for Ramones as GOAT was the biggest surprise.

Indexed, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

the write-in vote for Bathtub Shitter was surprising

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link


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