Tonight I'll be doing pull-ups on the toilet POLL - Artist Poll #104 - THE REPLACEMENTS Voting Thread

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14 Songs is for the most part such a dreary affair.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link

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what is TSHTF?

i only knew of the horns and strings PTMM, Tim-acoustic, and Tim-electric

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link

TSHTF = The Shit Hits The Fans, a cassette-only release in 1985. When I was 12, my grandmother took me to the mall one day and said I could pick out one tape to buy. I really wanted TSHTF, but was fairly certain there was no way she'd let me buy it. Now it's fucking $40 on discogs.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

cassette-only live release, I should say

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

haha, that's great. do you remember what you got instead?

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link

Was it Television, The Blow Up?

ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

Or The Buzzcocks, Lest We Forget?

ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

Or maybe even Precise Modern Lovers Order?

ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

"here kid - have this worthless old record that doesn't even have a label on it, just says velvet underground and dolph or something

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

btw - apologies if this was covered upthread, but will votes for different song versions (e.g., 'can't hardly wait') be combined? replacements seem to have several songs like that with several excellent but very different versions. i'm cool with either way, just wanted to know before voting

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

"here kid - have this worthless old record that doesn't even have a label on it, just says velvet underground and dolph or something

Lol

ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

frick! I forgot to include this in my paul solos. oh well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tAoDUG92n4

the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

Kudos on the poll title! I'm not going to vote, my interest drops precipitously in anything they did once they left Twin/Tone, and I feel like I'd be doing the later albums a disservice by ignoring them. Having just reread Trouble Boys though my interest in reading about those songs is high, greater than actually hearing them.

Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link

I suspect the age demographics of ILM will tend to skew voting toward the later albums.

I got on the bus (sans kisses) with Hootenanny and got off after Tim ... before voting I'm going to check out the later albums, some of which I've never heard, but I'm sure my ballot will be Twin/Tone heavy.

Brad C., Tuesday, 22 September 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

I'm not sure how many pre-Let it Be tracks will make my ballot, to be honest. Aside from some scattered moments on Sorry Ma, I never cared much for those.

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link

"Kids Don't Follow" from Stink is like a dream collaboration with the wipers sound from the same exact era, it's blistering

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link

legend has it if you listen really closely to the cops breaking up the party at the beginning, you can hear 11-year-old Winona Horowitz doing a drug

the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link

"within your reach" seems like a song that could have been amazing with just like, 2 more hours practice on it

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:36 (three years ago) link

i think it's mainly the one finger one take keyboard part - i'd love to hear a remix that just removes it

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link

but i get that it's part of the hootenanny experience, that's just how it goes at hootenannies

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link

there's one beautiful moment near the end of 'left of the dial' where the bass does a little descending walking line and you want the song to continue like that for at least another minute (like what bruce does in 'thunder road') but it only happens once and then the song ends 10 seconds later.

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link

haha, that's great. do you remember what you got instead?


It was either Pete Townshend/Ronnie Lane’s Rough Mix (didn’t like it at 12, loved it at 16), Talking Heads’ Little Creatures, or — and I’m 99% sure it was this, as I’d seen them about a month prior — R.E.M.’s Fables of the Reconstruction.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link

sorry ma, forgot to take out the trash kind of rules! it's a little inconsistent, but kick your door down, customer, takin' a ride, shutup...

oh god, sorry ma is damn near perfect. let it be is my fave six days a week but at least one day week i can convince myself they were a shining example of a band that started out at their peak and every subsequent album is just a little worse than the one before, no exceptions, until don't tell a soul and all shook down, where they decided to hurry up and get worse that much faster.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link

shit hits the fans is the best live album in the history of rock prove me wrong

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link

(i mean, yes, i will acknowledge that live at the apollo is better, but otherwise...)

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 22:42 (three years ago) link

am i crazy for thinking that "i don't know" reminds me a bit of the b-52s?

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:00 (three years ago) link

I’d have liked a B-52s version better!

The little engine that choogled (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:11 (three years ago) link

stink and sorry ma fucking rule so hard

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link

a real "upper mississippi shakedown" if you will

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

ums I bet when you hear Paul's "go" in "anyway I ain't got nowhere else to go" from Hangin' Downtown, it probably just sounds like a normal "go" to you and not the monophthongal /oʊ/ linguistic curiosity that it actually is

and I for one will not try and prove anyone wrong about Shit Hits the Fans being the best live album of all live albums. if you're in a rock band and there's not a recording of you shambling belligerently through a series of halfway-finished impromptu classic rock piss-takes, are you even really in a rock band?

the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link

...but will votes for different song versions (e.g., 'can't hardly wait') be combined?

Yeah, will combine votes. Definitely add a parenthetical note or whatever if you strongly favour a particular version. I've been recording that stuff. Particularly good idea if you wish to highlight a less widely heard take. (Which I guess in most cases means anything other than versions on the original issues of the conventional studio albums.)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:33 (three years ago) link

if you're in a rock band and there's not a recording of you shambling belligerently through a series of halfway-finished impromptu classic rock piss-takes, are you even really in a rock band?

correct. except about the belligerence. some of those halfway finished piss-takes are acts of pure, unfiltered, unrehearsed love.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:42 (three years ago) link

oh for sure, I guess I meant more the "belligerent" synonymous with "hammered"

the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link

:)

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:48 (three years ago) link

Ballot sent! :D

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:35 (three years ago) link

I didn't end up with a lot of Stink or Sorry Ma, but Hootenanny nearly lands as many as tracks for me as the big ones.
though I'm probably the only Otto voter.

campreverb, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:05 (three years ago) link

I included a ridiculous number of Hootenanny tracks myself. Didn't really see that coming.

The number of ballots is safely into double digits already, with, er, *checks* 80 Replacements tracks and 37 'other' tracks getting the nod.

Incidentally, for anyone with niggling ballot regrets, amendments are no problem at all.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:24 (three years ago) link

the burrito that defined a generation at 6:32 22 Sep 20

ums I bet when you hear Paul's "go" in "anyway I ain't got nowhere else to go" from Hangin' Downtown, it probably just sounds like a normal "go" to you and not the monophthongal /oʊ/ linguistic curiosity that it actually is

...haha yeah I mean. being from MN I have a lot of complex feelings about the Replacements but I mean, there's a connection that I feel really deeply even in times I'm not that into them.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:29 (three years ago) link

i think ended up w 3 tracks from Sorry Ma and 3 from Hootenanny ... it was a v sad game of lifeboat, culling the master list :/

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:32 (three years ago) link

aside from "Gary's Got a Boner" as the clear number one, it's hard to rank them

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:33 (three years ago) link

Before I made my final cuts I had it down at the bottom of my draft ballot in the Novelty Nods section along with Buck Hill and Tommy Gets His Tonsils Out. Slept on it and ultimately chose the one true right-feeling wrong best song.

the burrito that defined a generation, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:52 (three years ago) link

was so happy when they did Tommy Got His Tonsils Out at the big show at Midway Stadium in St Paul... playing a big last hometown show at a minor league baseball stadium that was about to be torn down is pretty much perfect

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 04:01 (three years ago) link

super cool you saw that! I'm still holding out hope for maybe one more pass-through of my town (and if I'm extra lucky, maybe even a Last Train to Clarksville)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFHghaktIno

the burrito that defined a generation, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 04:15 (three years ago) link

Bash & Pop's Tiny Pieces is a little bit fabulous. And it's been repeatedly re-entering my head since the weekend. Hooray for discovering things 27 years late.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 07:37 (three years ago) link

there's one beautiful moment near the end of 'left of the dial' where the bass does a little descending walking line and you want the song to continue like that for at least another minute (like what bruce does in 'thunder road') but it only happens once and then the song ends 10 seconds later.

― i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Tuesday, September 22, 2020 5:47 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Yes

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

Sent my list in, pretty easy since they only have one good album and it is an EP

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link

Bob’s trainwreck solo at about 00:50 on “We’re Comin’ Out”, open strings and all, is the greatest Replacements moment of all time (for today)

Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

Bob is one of my favorite "outside" rock guitarists.

ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 21:24 (three years ago) link

there's one beautiful moment near the end of 'left of the dial' where the bass does a little descending walking line and you want the song to continue like that for at least another minute (like what bruce does in 'thunder road') but it only happens once and then the song ends 10 seconds later.


At the time, I thought that the “sweet Georgia breezes” line, coupled with that distinctly “Gardening At Night”-esque descending bass line was a nod to R.E.M., a kind of, “Hey, we’re all on this college radio circuit together!” tribute to the scene.

Found out 31 years later “Lay It Down Clown” was the song about R.E.M., specifically, how Peter Buck was stingy with his speed.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link

You know I tend to think of Westerberg's solo career as a series of diminishing returns, but I've got close to 30 tracks without even getting into 49:00, which I think is brilliant. Admittedly, I love all the Grandpaboy stuff, Dead Man Shake in particular.
BTW Caryn Rose has a great piece on Salon about the 49:00 period: https://www.salon.com/2015/04/11/the_best_paul_westerberg_songs_you_never_heard_a_journey_through_his_surprise_2008_solo_gems/

campreverb, Thursday, 24 September 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link


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