CELTICS 2010

on the bright side they get a couple extra days off and gordon hayward is back

i mean, yeah, the celtics have definitely used their starters for a shit-ton of minutes, and it doesn't seem sustainable, but the "holy moly" line in that chart is a little disingenuous considering that the celts have played two more games than the heat and three more than the raptors.

that said, even with hayward in the lineup, three players logged more than 40 minutes in game 3 on saturday and they were all celtics. so, yeah, there's good reason to worry.

the "holy moly" line in that chart is a little disingenuous considering that the celts have played two more games than the heat and three more than the raptors.

― fact checking cuz, Monday, September 21, 2020 3:40 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

well the minutes are adding up regardless of how many games theyre spread across, occurs to me in some ways its prob worse that theyre over more games cause it means they havent had any rest

coming off of a tough 7 game series that was played over 13 days definitely feels like a factor

thank god for monday night football fellas

this piece about Jaylen Brown is great, didn't know he followed in the footsteps of legendary Grizzly Shareef Abdur Rahim: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29933515/nba-playoffs-celtics-jaylen-brown-player-moment

With Gordon Hayward back, the Celtics' best-5 lineup was a +13 in less than 7 minutes in Game 3, an 11-point win.

Some film, numbers & additional notes from those meaningful segments of the 2nd & 4th quarters: https://t.co/FgnpBiBNvM

— John Schuhmann (@johnschuhmann) September 22, 2020

im fascinated by the best 5 lineup.... love playoff adjustments

the important playoff adjustment of playing your best 5

18 total minutes during the regular season!

which i mean a. its a very small lineup theres not even really a power forward in it much less a center b. they didnt have that many games with all their guys healthy c. in the regular season youre trying more to stagger minutes and not tire your guys out playing against bigger guys d. the lineup doesnt make sense against all teams

BUT now none of that stuff really matters

still weird they didnt run it more tho

i didn't catch this:

The Celtics have played 12 consecutive games in these playoffs without the home team winning any of them. The streak included the last two games of Boston’s first-round sweep of Philadelphia, every game of the Celtics’ seven-round epic with Toronto in the second round and the first three games of the Eastern Conference finals against Miami. Boston’s second-round matchup with Toronto was the first in more than 600 best-of-seven series in N.B.A. playoff history in which the home team failed to win a single game.

sorry for the dim question but there is no 'home' team i thought?

Not in any conventional sense of 'home team', but the NBA designates a home team for each game in the bubble and does the 'virtual fan' section via webcams, and pipes in appropriate crowd noises, music, and scoreboard messages to simulate a home game. but it's bunk.

yes, quite

no virtual parquet, no credibility

this is it, this is the celtics mindtype on display

.@Grant2Will has fully embraced Celtic culture ☘️ pic.twitter.com/0ayDpNWEHS

— Taylor Snow (@taylorcsnow) September 26, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOBaL9GVtuE

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/fouls-3-point-shooting-daniel-theis-has-room-grow-celtics

Theis racked up 219 personal fouls, the eighth-highest total in the entire league. That’s 5.5 fouls per 36 minutes of play, making him a threat to foul out each time he touched the floor. And he did foul out four times in the postseason, including once in 21 minutes, 34 seconds of court time during Boston’s season-ending loss to Miami.

theis definitely gets officiated like he's a nobody at times, but i think a lot of is just that as an undersized starting center there are still a bunch of matchups around the league that are going to result in very long nights. usually when i see him commit fouls i would call "bad" it's not a result of being too weak but more being a step too late on the contest. they ask him to do a lot in a thankless role on both ends of the court and to his credit he's more than happy to.

even if he were to cut down his foul rate, ideally he's not a guy you're playing more than like 28 minutes a night. i think they need to look at backup center again this offseason and find one more guy who is solid defensively in most matchups and can eat up some minutes.

he had a great regular season and got housed in the offs, its tuff out there

feel like it's worth marking down for future ref that coach brad isn't a secret republican or something: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/20/nation/celtics-coach-brad-stevens-appear-with-his-doppelganger-pete-buttigieg-virtual-rally/

Is Kevin McHale the only Trumpy NBA coach? Even George Karl is a never-trumper:

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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2914620-gordon-hayward-trade-rumors-pacers-continue-to-have-interest-in-celtics-star

manifesting my reality 🙏

what's the most sensible way to get the salaries to match?

something like dipo and turner for hayward a young guy and pick(s)

...depending on dipos trade value which to me seems like it should be low since he was bad last year and is on the final year of his deal

or hayward could opt out and do some sort of longer for less per year sign and trade tho i know the rules around those are pretty stringent so im not sure itd work

turner and jeremy lamb basically gets you there and lamb would be redundant if they were getting hayward. the pacers should probably make boston take back tj leaf or someone to balance the money even more.

i just don't really know why the pacers would do it.

if they got a team with massive cap space to absorb lamb's contract and take one of boston's 3 1st rounders, turner to boston and hayward to indy could still work

like:

IND gets hayward ($34.1M), mykhailiuk (1.6M)

BOS gets turner ($17.5M)

DET gets lamb ($10.5M), #26 pick (BOS)

feels pretty balanced

you've made the celtics happy as they're saving a shitload of money in that trade

turner and jeremy lamb basically gets you there and lamb would be redundant if they were getting hayward. the pacers should probably make boston take back tj leaf or someone to balance the money even more.

i just don't really know why the pacers would do it.

― call all destroyer, Friday, October 23, 2020 1:42 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

cause theyre losing dipo so they need a perimeter creator, and they have two guys they want to play at center, also theyd be getting the best player in the trade... and hes a hoosier

obvs im a well knows proponent of turner to bos but its not like hes a superstar, he cld def be played off the floor in a playoff series just by making him guard the perimeter, his 3pt shot is slow which means it can prob be mostly shut down via concerted close outs, also he doesnt rebound, but still i do think he wld be nasty on the c's and him + theis would give them a very good flexible center rotation

i think it makes sense for both teams and the celtics have draft picks/young guys they can sweeten the pot with, the thing that wld give me pause were i the pacers is haywards recent injury history, and theyd prob need some sort of agreement on a new contract since hes in his last season, not sure if a sign and trade wld work here or what

i guess the oladipo thing going south and their otherwise decent team could motivate them to try something like this, but man idk brogdon/hayward/sabonis/warren/? does not really get me excited.

but how are they supposed to put something together that does get you excited, thats prob a top 4 east seed if nothing else, and indy are on record as being anti rebuilding, so you have a pretty good team and try to work it out from there

i mean if they can find a better trade for turner obvs they take it but i doubt theyre getting back anyone better than gordo

yeah, i know, i think it’s a mental block for me. bunch of guys who i get are good but don’t love their games much.

brogdon/hayward/sabonis/warren/?

this is a v good team! theyve got GOGA coming up at C, they can probably get at the v least a strong starting level rotation player if theyre trading oladipo.

yeah, see above. it's a 4/5 seed type of team. really too bad what happened to oladipo, he was their chance to be a serious playoff team.

for sure

no one is ditching valuable role players for the privilege of paying gordon hayward $34M to put up 17/5/4

except maybe the knicks

ahem, its closer to 18/7/4 on 50/38/86 shooting splits

i think those numbers go up in a higher usage situation like indiana where he'd be the #1 wing as opposed to the #3. and that $34M is a lot, but it's also off the books in one year.

well if indiana were doing this they'd have to be getting a sense of what gordon's extension will be, obviously he's in no position to stay at $34M but my guess is it would be 3 years north of 20 which is a little scary imo.

i'll just put my bias out there, hayward's celtics career was insanely snakebit but i have watched him play basketball for the past two seasons and i don't expect him to be all that good going forward.

i get that, but he seemed to have turned a corner this year.