Tonight I'll be doing pull-ups on the toilet POLL - Artist Poll #104 - THE REPLACEMENTS Voting Thread

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Solo-wise, will be fun to review what I have (most all of Paul's cd/digital stuff, Tommy's Perfect and first Bash & Pop, though no Chris, Slim or Bob albums). Pretty sure "Good Day" will be my number one. That and "Sunrise Always Listens" have been great cushions over the years.

Reading this thread is a good spur to pre-order the PTMM set.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 21 September 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

i liked the Paul & Juliana Hatfield collab album from a few years ago (2016? 2014?) .. released as The I Don’t Cares

the tracks where they harmonize together are the highlights for me

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 September 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

i love Good Day by Tommy! i will def be votong for that

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 September 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

voting even

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 September 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

oooo, first poll that's lured me back in in a while. I will definitely vote. On the solo stuff I need to go back to those Chris Mars albums, haven't listened in a while.

So if I'm reading this right, Chinese Democracy qualifies as a Replacements project, right?

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 21 September 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link

Solo projects was easy for me. I've listened to Westerberg's twin albums Stereo & Mono far, far more than anything else they've done outside of the band, and that was pretty much my list. I still remember when it came out and Westerberg did those in-store appearances (including Virgin in Chicago, where a fan handed him a lyric sheet when he forgot a 'Mats classic mid-song).

birdistheword, Monday, 21 September 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

Ha, my first off-the-top-of-my-head cull gave me exactly 30 songs. Probably leaving some out tho.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 21 September 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link

So if I'm reading this right, Chinese Democracy qualifies as a Replacements project, right?

I changed that "central creative or songwriting role" sentence up the top a comical number of times. It initially ended with "(so possibly not G'n'R or Soul Asylum, etc)" or similar. Stinson definitely gets a few songwriting credits on Chinese Democracy so... maybe?! Let your conscience be your guide...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 00:18 (three years ago) link

Make sure to give Bash & Pop's first album a spin before you submit a ballot full of Westerberg solo trax.

BrianB, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link

I kind of have Can't Hardly Wait like this.
1. Horns and Strings PTMM
2. Blistering TSHTF version
3. Tim-acoustic take

campreverb, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link

14 Songs is for the most part such a dreary affair.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link

xp

what is TSHTF?

i only knew of the horns and strings PTMM, Tim-acoustic, and Tim-electric

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link

TSHTF = The Shit Hits The Fans, a cassette-only release in 1985. When I was 12, my grandmother took me to the mall one day and said I could pick out one tape to buy. I really wanted TSHTF, but was fairly certain there was no way she'd let me buy it. Now it's fucking $40 on discogs.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

cassette-only live release, I should say

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

haha, that's great. do you remember what you got instead?

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link

Was it Television, The Blow Up?

ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

Or The Buzzcocks, Lest We Forget?

ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

Or maybe even Precise Modern Lovers Order?

ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

"here kid - have this worthless old record that doesn't even have a label on it, just says velvet underground and dolph or something

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

btw - apologies if this was covered upthread, but will votes for different song versions (e.g., 'can't hardly wait') be combined? replacements seem to have several songs like that with several excellent but very different versions. i'm cool with either way, just wanted to know before voting

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

"here kid - have this worthless old record that doesn't even have a label on it, just says velvet underground and dolph or something

Lol

ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

frick! I forgot to include this in my paul solos. oh well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tAoDUG92n4

the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

Kudos on the poll title! I'm not going to vote, my interest drops precipitously in anything they did once they left Twin/Tone, and I feel like I'd be doing the later albums a disservice by ignoring them. Having just reread Trouble Boys though my interest in reading about those songs is high, greater than actually hearing them.

Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link

I suspect the age demographics of ILM will tend to skew voting toward the later albums.

I got on the bus (sans kisses) with Hootenanny and got off after Tim ... before voting I'm going to check out the later albums, some of which I've never heard, but I'm sure my ballot will be Twin/Tone heavy.

Brad C., Tuesday, 22 September 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

I'm not sure how many pre-Let it Be tracks will make my ballot, to be honest. Aside from some scattered moments on Sorry Ma, I never cared much for those.

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link

"Kids Don't Follow" from Stink is like a dream collaboration with the wipers sound from the same exact era, it's blistering

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link

legend has it if you listen really closely to the cops breaking up the party at the beginning, you can hear 11-year-old Winona Horowitz doing a drug

the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link

"within your reach" seems like a song that could have been amazing with just like, 2 more hours practice on it

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:36 (three years ago) link

i think it's mainly the one finger one take keyboard part - i'd love to hear a remix that just removes it

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link

but i get that it's part of the hootenanny experience, that's just how it goes at hootenannies

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link

there's one beautiful moment near the end of 'left of the dial' where the bass does a little descending walking line and you want the song to continue like that for at least another minute (like what bruce does in 'thunder road') but it only happens once and then the song ends 10 seconds later.

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link

haha, that's great. do you remember what you got instead?


It was either Pete Townshend/Ronnie Lane’s Rough Mix (didn’t like it at 12, loved it at 16), Talking Heads’ Little Creatures, or — and I’m 99% sure it was this, as I’d seen them about a month prior — R.E.M.’s Fables of the Reconstruction.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link

sorry ma, forgot to take out the trash kind of rules! it's a little inconsistent, but kick your door down, customer, takin' a ride, shutup...

oh god, sorry ma is damn near perfect. let it be is my fave six days a week but at least one day week i can convince myself they were a shining example of a band that started out at their peak and every subsequent album is just a little worse than the one before, no exceptions, until don't tell a soul and all shook down, where they decided to hurry up and get worse that much faster.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link

shit hits the fans is the best live album in the history of rock prove me wrong

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link

(i mean, yes, i will acknowledge that live at the apollo is better, but otherwise...)

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 22:42 (three years ago) link

am i crazy for thinking that "i don't know" reminds me a bit of the b-52s?

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:00 (three years ago) link

I’d have liked a B-52s version better!

The little engine that choogled (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:11 (three years ago) link

stink and sorry ma fucking rule so hard

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link

a real "upper mississippi shakedown" if you will

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

ums I bet when you hear Paul's "go" in "anyway I ain't got nowhere else to go" from Hangin' Downtown, it probably just sounds like a normal "go" to you and not the monophthongal /oʊ/ linguistic curiosity that it actually is

and I for one will not try and prove anyone wrong about Shit Hits the Fans being the best live album of all live albums. if you're in a rock band and there's not a recording of you shambling belligerently through a series of halfway-finished impromptu classic rock piss-takes, are you even really in a rock band?

the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link

...but will votes for different song versions (e.g., 'can't hardly wait') be combined?

Yeah, will combine votes. Definitely add a parenthetical note or whatever if you strongly favour a particular version. I've been recording that stuff. Particularly good idea if you wish to highlight a less widely heard take. (Which I guess in most cases means anything other than versions on the original issues of the conventional studio albums.)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:33 (three years ago) link

if you're in a rock band and there's not a recording of you shambling belligerently through a series of halfway-finished impromptu classic rock piss-takes, are you even really in a rock band?

correct. except about the belligerence. some of those halfway finished piss-takes are acts of pure, unfiltered, unrehearsed love.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:42 (three years ago) link

oh for sure, I guess I meant more the "belligerent" synonymous with "hammered"

the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link

:)

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:48 (three years ago) link

Ballot sent! :D

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:35 (three years ago) link

I didn't end up with a lot of Stink or Sorry Ma, but Hootenanny nearly lands as many as tracks for me as the big ones.
though I'm probably the only Otto voter.

campreverb, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:05 (three years ago) link

I included a ridiculous number of Hootenanny tracks myself. Didn't really see that coming.

The number of ballots is safely into double digits already, with, er, *checks* 80 Replacements tracks and 37 'other' tracks getting the nod.

Incidentally, for anyone with niggling ballot regrets, amendments are no problem at all.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:24 (three years ago) link

the burrito that defined a generation at 6:32 22 Sep 20

ums I bet when you hear Paul's "go" in "anyway I ain't got nowhere else to go" from Hangin' Downtown, it probably just sounds like a normal "go" to you and not the monophthongal /oʊ/ linguistic curiosity that it actually is

...haha yeah I mean. being from MN I have a lot of complex feelings about the Replacements but I mean, there's a connection that I feel really deeply even in times I'm not that into them.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:29 (three years ago) link

i think ended up w 3 tracks from Sorry Ma and 3 from Hootenanny ... it was a v sad game of lifeboat, culling the master list :/

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:32 (three years ago) link

aside from "Gary's Got a Boner" as the clear number one, it's hard to rank them

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:33 (three years ago) link


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