Posts you had second thought about and decided not to post - put them here

oh, i am totally one of those posters that gets annoyed at posters in canada but that is by coincidence. there were just a couple of instances of them posting the same stuff 10 times a day, o'er multiple days. I got annoyed, who cares. We should all be banned.

I got annoyed, who cares. We should all be banned.

New board description plz.

Co-sign

Permaban the internet

-Childish Gambino

boomer opinion

don't think this thread has made a convincing case for why Fred should have been banned

sorry we didn't arbitrarily spend all weekend combing two-three years of data in 24 hours time to put together an Exhibit A for you

(ulysses asked for some examples because he was genuinely curious - he didn't ask us to put together a legal brief)

plus, Fred is currently unbanned and has posted recently but has stated he has no desire to come back.

yeah I don’t think that is the intended function of this thread.

Maybe the 102 fp’s can do the convincing.

whatever, he posted in earnest whether or not you liked his posts

Not sure what earnestness has to with it, there’s no shortage of deeply sincere troublemakers in the world.

Anyway it’s nothing to litigate, it happened.

earnestness matters a lot to me, it's why I like ilx

are you Oscar Wilde

i mean it is kinda rude, though, it's like having a friend crying and telling you this person is constantly making your life hell, and responding "really? name 15 exact things she's done and I need it in the next five minutes, or else I will not believe you"

:) I did see the 1952 film recently

fred's bans were both ages ago. if you really want to understand why, the only way is to go back and read all the posts about them from that time. nobody else is going to put together a history of it that's much use. certainly the time to litigate it would have been back then --- everything looks better in vague hindsight without all the posts in front of us.

Part of the way genocide jokes work is a) it matters who is making them (e.g. few people think it's unacceptable for Jews to joke about the Shoah); b) insofar as genocide is the epitome of human nihilism, it screams 'desacralization', i.e. nothing can ever be sacred again after such an event, including genocide, so we might as well make fun of it for cathartic purposes. The second condition was definitely met here as far as I'm concerned, it's the first that is still up for debate, at least in the context of ILX.

I have no idea what this in relation to

Quick derail re: yr post, pom: I just don't agree with the premise that *anyone* can make fun of genocide after its event as elucidated in yr point b, and joking about indigenous genocide if yr a settler is ghastly, afaic. i don't want to assume unperson's ethnic background, but I don't think my stance is one of leftist sanctimony run amok— it's one of not wanting to poke at wounds that are still festering due to the hegemonic political ideology in the US.

but if that makes me a "PC fag" or a humorless twat or whatever, then so be it.

i'd rather be a humorless fag than taking the piss about genocide. call me crazy.

Oh nm I’ve caught up, yeah, fuck anyone from the outgroup joking about genocide, like fuck me, how hard is it to not trivialise something that still has impact up to and including the present day?

xp tbh I think if it’s your own group then gallows humour is not only fine but acceptable, I couldn’t tell you the number of jokes about the famine I’ve made that I would consider deeply awful for idk a British person to make.

That's fair, table, I'm not trying to exculpate unperson here. He knows exactly what he's doing and the aim was to get a rise out of you, presumably because he finds little value in radical idealism.

3xp

Honestly nothing more of a boring edgelord opinion than racist joke -> it’s just a joke > fucking humourless lefties > why can’t you take a joke it’s not like my ancestors killed them or anything

thanks pom. and gyac, i agree with you, tbh!

The thing is, even if you performatively want to piss off another ILXor because you think they're a snowflake or whatever alt-right-adjacent buzzword you can think of, there are other, considerably less fraught ways of doing it.

If you're already operating from that headspace, your capacity for nuance might be shooting sparks.

yeah he came into this "joke" from my favorite (most hated) centrist line of thinking that we should just not let people in red states vote bc they're too dumb or something, haha that'll learn 'em

give me some Jimmy Smith over this fucking monochrome tinny art-school dross any day of the week!

wow that's a novel Prince diss

i don't want to assume unperson's ethnic background, but

when u know the original post was *fire emoji*

**For the humorless leftier-than-thous in the room: all of this is jokes.**

^^^^ this is such a cop out and basically an admission that you have a really sad and pathetic sense of humor

“If you’re offended, first of all you’re not really offended, and also you don’t have a sense of humor”

I would just like to apologize by saying: don't be such a snowflake.

it was a rightier-than-thou post

_i don't want to assume unperson's ethnic background, but_


when u know the original post was *fire emoji*

Even though I am personally minorly harmed by the SALT cap, being in a high-tax blue state, there's really not that much justification for eliminating it other than a giveaway to donors tbh.

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, September 17, 2020 1:21 PM (one week ago)

Because the SALT cap was politically punitive and legally unfair in terms of the logic of the tax code? Granted it isn't as ridiculously unfair as the marriage penalty vis a vis student loan interest, the fact the maximum deduction for student loan interest hasn't gone up in 20 years, and the absurdly low maximum pre-tax deduction for dependent care ... but if you think about the fact that the SALT cap doesn't affect business entities and only individual taxpayers, and think about who the donors _are_ ...your post just seems like it's missing important things.

I tried my hardest but just couldn’t enjoy Sterling any more after he went to Chelsea.

my love language

I kinda feel that way about Morrissey's "National Front Disco" ... and some of the other "Your Arsenal" songs tbh, though I am American so

this is the last thread on earth to be smug about anything in imo

I don't want to enter the actual thread given its current negativity but oh my god I am pissing myself at NYCNative taking fgti's "I was in Gay Dad" comment seriously.

Lol

Yeah what happened in that thread? I read the first few posts and then scrolled down and felt like I'd gone through a wormhole

I was gonna correct him, but...ehh, it's Friday night. Let it lie.

To be honest it's a much better thread than I thought it was going to be (the potential for abuse apologism was high but seems to have been mostly avoided). But it got horribly personal and I don't want to step into that.

The main point though is lol lol lol lol

^ otm

ps to tabes, Branwell and fgti are both longtime ilx0rs who have changed display names (and IRL artistic pseudonyms), flambo is a working musician who was not the drummer in Gay Dad (& is not English)

I was going to make an effort to follow that thread but then that happened. Both of those posters can be quite interesting but perhaps a bit volatile, to say the least.

God will someone, perhaps Sarahell, just message me who these people with the new display names might be? I've been here 06, started taking longer breaks in 2011, cut it out most by 2012...and then came back seven years later.

It's a weird feeling to feel like an old hand and a noob at the same time.