Covidiots in music

No, my statement that you picked up on there was about Autists and our specific vulnerability to 'systematically comprehensive, completely logically consistent but warped worldviews' even when they're wrong or incomplete (e.g. things like incel ideology.) We are susceptible to those systems of thinking, precisely because we *do* tend to develop our own heuristics, rather than relying on social pressure and convention and all the other weird things neurotypicals seem to go by.

I wasn't saying 'autists love authoritarian fandom!' - I was saying more 'autists love to march to our own drumbeats' (but this does leave us susceptible to some really odd drums, and I think this is what's happened to RDJ, who used the word Asperger's to self-describe, hence why I used it.)

(Personally, as an Autist, the idea that I never have to go closer than 2m to another human being ever again is my idea of heaven!)

I totally got what you were saying there btw, which is why I apologized for taking a bit out of context.

I think a tendency or ability to embrace rules can be (generally very wrongly) equated with authoritarianism random.

I feel there's a responsibility to cultivate good heuristics but maybe that's not entirely fair as it depends tonquite a large extent on your environmental inputs.

I feel like Van takes the crown here by not just spouting off bullshit in interviews, but by actively recordings songs about his dumbassery.

tbh these songs will be hilarious and I'm looking forward to them

Hold my beer

Lyrics from the new Ian Brown single

“A sonic lockdown in your home town / A sonic lockdown, can you feel me now? / A sonic lockdown, state shakedown, a mass breakdown / Put your muzzle on, get back in your basket / Get behind your doors cos living here is drastic.”

Oh wait, already mentioned nvm

Holy fuck at that Ian Brown song.

Even ignoring the hilariously awful lyrics, it's atrocious on every level.

I'm afraid to ask, but -- what does "sonic" lockdown mean?

Sonic lockdown:

https://pm1.narvii.com/7472/532adba41481986b677ea945c96d32fb206ae64er1-512-278v2_uhq.jpg

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/bc2820ef08e27bb265b65640f17bd6c51d462486/0_0_3635_5589/master/3635.jpg?width=700&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=d36b4531528296afc93aac71835d8c28

ok uh who is RDJ? wasted 5 min already searching.

aphex twin

ah, ok. thanks!

Richard D James

the D now stands for dumbass

Just listened to that Ian Brown song and it's definitely "masonic lockdown" imo which is straight-up David Icke conspiracy nonsense. Fucking cretin.

Dr Evil, and his needle

I'm sorry but that is hilarious and I am having that.

Ian Brown was trotting out gay mafia-type conspiracy theories 20 years ago, he's got form for this sort of thing.

Sorry to bring politics into ILM

LOL

List seems pretty multi-generational to me, tho I don't think I've seen any new/relevant artists take this stance yet.

I do wonder why this is. Could it be that the RJDs, Noels, and Vans have far less to lose at this stage of their careers? Tough to imagine a younger, up and coming artist potentially committing career suicide by expressing these opinions (though maybe Kaityln Aurelia Smith fits the bill? I don't know, haven't seen the evidence she is a Covidiot))

my acceptance of them is based on my own heuristics for determining truth and value, so at that point I don't feel it's acquiescence to a top-down dictum at all but rather personal responsibility.

this is pretty much my position and the objectively sanest approach imo

Angel Olsen shared a link to Plandemic on her instagram stories

really?! she usually shares BLM stuff, seems properly well-read and researched about that and voting rights, LGBTQ stuff, women's rights and such.

Woof this Ian Brown song is really embarrassing, even without the lyrics

really?! she usually shares BLM stuff, seems properly well-read and researched about that and voting rights, LGBTQ stuff, women's rights and such.

It is one of the great fallacies of our time to expect people who have good political views to have good views in other domains (or for that matter to be good people in their personal lives)

angel olsen posting the plandemic video and then taking it down by saying she "got got on the gram playa" jesus christ

— dana danger (@womensrites) May 17, 2020

lmao

can someone under 40 translate that please

i'm under 40 and no i can't

My guess is that she's blaming Instagram's video player.

the new "I was hacked"

Her dog posted it.

Jesus built my instagram

can't believe i forgot Robbie

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/robbie-williams-pizzagate_uk_5ef4b086c5b643f5b230474d

Jello is finally wearing a mask now, but earlier...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxe8Cg3VKu8

he could lose more teeth in street fights

always a thoughtful and nuanced take from jello

really?! she usually shares BLM stuff, seems properly well-read and researched about that and voting rights, LGBTQ stuff, women's rights and such.

It is one of the great fallacies of our time to expect people who have good political views to have good views in other domains (or for that matter to be good people in their personal lives)

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 20 September 2020 bookmarkflaglink

I'd be really surprised if someone was pro-BLM, etc. And then turned out to have anti-mask/vaccine opinions

Have we had a thread where we come up with conspiracy theories that are at once wildly fanastical but could hold just enough sway over people that they might believe them?

It is one of the great fallacies of our time to expect people who have good political views to have good views in other domains

The pandemic is a political issue, shouldn't be but it's the world we live in.

How could it not be a political issue, in any world?

I'd be really surprised if someone was pro-BLM, etc. And then turned out to have anti-mask/vaccine opinions

― xyzzzz__, Monday, September 21, 2020 8:08 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://www.the-sun.com/news/962604/ice-cube-calls-bill-gates-bunker-bch-spreads-conspiracies-about-covid-vaccines-epstein/

tech n9ne did a concert that was not distanced

Jello looks spitting image of Colin Mochrie up there

anvil, everything's political an' all, but I do think that if this had exploded a few decades ago it wouldn't have been weaponized for culture war purposes to the same degree to the extent it has

No, but there'd still be debates about what the right thing to do would be, even without culture war weaponization

If this had happened a few decades ago, when remote work & distance learning would not have been possible to nearly the extent they are now, my guess is that the degree of economic & social disruption (and probably # of deaths) would have been greater, and the public debate would may have been even more intense in certain ways.

Have we had a thread where we come up with conspiracy theories that are at once wildly fanastical but could hold just enough sway over people that they might believe them?

I'd be really surprised if someone was pro-BLM, etc. And then turned out to have anti-mask/vaccine opinions

I'd be really surprised if there weren't plenty of people who fit this description.

There literally are!

The Jill Stein libs for one

A former colleague of mine fits that description, partially because he's a conspiracy nut in general. It's been sad watching him spiral into COVID-19 related paranoia, culminating in an outburst against Facebook and YouTube for "choosing what I can believe" when they took down the debunked conspiracy videos he wanted to share. Very. Very. Sad.

No, but there'd still be debates about what the right thing to do would be, even without culture war weaponization

Sure, but that's different from the "corona? lol!" attitude most of the artists discussed here are taking.

https://imgur.com/B1KiNol