Eno/Byrne's My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts Reissued?

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>the whole Bush of Ghosts concept was thieved from Jon Hassell!

like Ned hinted at, Hassell does not have the copyright on cross-cultural tape collage -- Czukay / Dammers' 'Canaxis' 1968, Richard Maxfield's 'Bacchanale', 1963, and James Tenney's 'Viet Flakes' 1967, all worth mentioning in reviews if you're going to get archival on us -- none of those are pop, though even there there's precedent in Czukay's 'Movies' from 1979.

Hassell overstates his case, he already had amazing solo records out & there's no confusion as to who was doing what, though yeah it would have been great if he'd been in on the sessions for this record.

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 13 February 2006 00:32 (eighteen years ago) link

oh yeah, Stockhausen's 'Hymnen' / 'Telemusik' too though I think the above pieces made their point more effectively

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 13 February 2006 00:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks Naive, can't wait to hear 'em again.

Nick Holmes (nother), Monday, 13 February 2006 02:53 (eighteen years ago) link

what other records are expicitly responses to/influenced by this?

Not to be too self-promoting, but I wrote a little bit about this here, although the second installment of the column will really get into the post-Eno/Byrne landscape in greater depth. I note that other posters here have covered some of the same key pieces as well.

Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Monday, 13 February 2006 05:19 (eighteen years ago) link

It is my boyfriend's favorite record. I think it's really good too. Boy would it be awkward if you hated your significant other's favorite LP. Anyway, I'm stoked to hear the bonus tracks.

H8erz who bag on this record = teh suq, UR all ghey

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Monday, 13 February 2006 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Boy would it be awkward if you hated your significant other's favorite LP.

My ex-partner, whom I otherwise loved on several zillion counts, absolutely HATED my taste in music. He endlessly mocked my Steve Reich, Cocteau Twins, Kate Bush, and Stina Nordenstam, whom I otherwise need to listen to every day.

Needless to say, I did say ex-partner...

Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Monday, 13 February 2006 12:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks for the link Myke, looking forward to part 2.

Nick Holmes (nother), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

has there been a thread about THE CATHERINE WHEEL yet?

who has the skinny on the re-release?

piscesboy, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Since apparently this isn't reissued along with the Talking Heads albums, is it possible they still don't get along? Apparently that is why they didn't work with Eno for the rest of their albums, because the friendship between Byrne and Eno didn't survive the work on this album.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I believe it was the fact that the rest of the band didn't take too kindly to the interloper who took not only artistic control but half the writing credits for all the songs on Remain In Light that was the real dealbreaker. But I suppose it's poss. the friendship between Byrne and Eno burned out as well.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

oops that ysi link is unavailable--can anybody re-do it? I'd love to hear some of those outtakes...

Tyler W (tylerw), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link

here it is again. credits to naive teen idol for the original zip. i added "Cu'ran" to the file.

willem -- (willem), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Awesome! Is that the normal "Q'uran" or something different?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks for Quran, willem. I was missing that track.

The Ghosts record isn't considered a Talking Heads record, hence no DualDisc, Geir.

The story I'd heard is the one Naive tells, that as Eno became more and more involved with the band - and remember, he'd been around since their first LP - Harrison et al. got sick of being the backup for the Byrne and Eno Show.

Brakhage (brakhage), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

As far as I know, it is "Qu'ran" as it appeared on this edition of the album (I got it through slsk), making it the "normal" version I guess.

willem -- (willem), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Is there an abnormal version too?

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know, maybe NTI does... Or maybe he was hoping it was a different version :-)

willem -- (willem), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

He was.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 00:07 (eighteen years ago) link

From a recent Iranian release (lots of Islamic chanting, though not of the Qur'an, which I don't think would mess with, but it goes into acoustic blues at some point, etc.):

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2WL2GT7XI83EP0KFMOF1N31CKM

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 12:16 (eighteen years ago) link

what other records are expicitly responses to/influenced by this?

Jean Michel Jarre's Zoolook. Honestly.

JimD (JimD), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 12:34 (eighteen years ago) link

cripes, willem's YSI has expired as well!

Any chance of another re-up, someone? Pretty please?

Jeff W (zebedee), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

if someone hasn't done so before tonight, then etc...

willem -- (willem), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Jeff W, neither of your mail addresses work. Too bad, now you're going to have to be one of the 9 people who gets this before it expires (beta.yousendit.com = uploads expire after 10 downloads !? damn.)

http://download.yousendit.com/300B8AC731FAF5D1

72 Mb zip file, 14 tracks (13 from the boot + Qu'ran)

myfullname, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

oh I'm all for taking my chances in the scrummage. That's democracy innit?

Anyway, got it, thanks very much myfullname.

beta.yousendit.com = uploads expire after 10 downloads !? damn
On the plus side, no annoying adverts... yet.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Zoolook is amazing. Or at least "Ethnicolor."

Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link

No, the whole thing is.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link

How about Deep Forest and Enigma?

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link

let's not go there

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 16 February 2006 00:20 (eighteen years ago) link

You know, I checked a few weeks ago, and Jean Michel Jarre is WAY under-represented on ILM. One day soon I'm going to pick up one of the very few, very short threads he's had, and write a big old essay. Painfully undderrated in SO many ways (and yet it's all his own fault!).

Nice to see some Zoolook love here though. I think it's often my favourite.

JimD (JimD), Thursday, 16 February 2006 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

go ahead and write that essay, Zoolook's my sentimental favorite too

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 16 February 2006 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link

No, the whole thing is.

Okay, I suppose I was remembering there being more dated robo-funk on this album, but having listened to it again, "Zoolook (Remix)" is the only track that doesn't hold up much for me. I stand corrected. Really, few have done as much with language (as opposed to simply voices) as Jarre did on this album...

Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Milton/Jon got me into Zoolook some time back -- and yes, it's awesome.

But let's not forget this: Analog Synthesizer Epics: S/D, POV

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:29 (eighteen years ago) link

from Pitchfork:

All of the multitracks from two of the album's songs will be available for download on a special website, www.bush-of-ghosts.com, which will go live approximately one month before the reissue's release. Users can remix the tracks and upload them, listen and rate other users' remixes, and create and upload their own videos inspired by the album's songs. In addition, the site will feature archival material dating back to the record's original production and release, including press, session photos, polaroids taken by Byrne, and a video for "Mea Culpa" directed by Bruce Conner. The video will also be included on the CD reissue.

Anything involving Bruce Conner is good. So maybe this will be a DualDisc then?

Brakhage (brakhage), Thursday, 16 February 2006 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link

There was a Conner video for America Is Waiting as well if memory serves.

Brakhage (brakhage), Thursday, 16 February 2006 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.canyoncinema.com/C/Conner_D_America.JPG

I hadn't even heard of his video for "Mea Culpa", that is exciting.

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 16 February 2006 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

That "America is Waiting" video is on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pIGbxx9uWk

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 16 February 2006 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Dang, the Mea Culpa used to be on Ubuweb (google cache link):
http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:NFvZ3-NDZXgJ:writing.upenn.edu/pepc/ubu/film/conner_mea_culpa.html+%22Mea+Culpa%22+%22bruce+conner%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=safari

This reissue is sounding better and better all the time.

The packaging reminds me of the CD/DVD reissue of 'World of Echo', though.

Brakhage (brakhage), Thursday, 16 February 2006 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Seems that iI was too late to find this thread to get the tracks at yousendit. Any chance of a reload please.

Bananabob, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 06:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I will re-up it tonight if nobody else has by then.

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 10:59 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, here's yet one more outing for that zip full of demos:

http://s65.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=23Z4OX3LY849H2ADLFC22PM26F

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks zebedee! You are a master!
Bb

Bananabob, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 06:26 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Subject: Your Amazon.co.uk order

Dear Customer,

We wanted to give you an update on the status of your order.

We are sorry to report that the following items have been delayed.

Brian Eno (Artist), David Byrne (Artist) "My Life in the Bush of
Ghosts [IMPORT]" [Audio CD]

We are sorry for any inconvenience this causes.


(Amazon.co.uk first had March 28th, has now been changed to April 11th)

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 09:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Anything involving Bruce Conner is good. So maybe this will be a DualDisc then?

-- Brakhage (cognitivebia...) (webmail), February 16th, 2006 3:51 PM. (brakhage) (link)

i'm sorry, but this had me laughing.. nice of you to bring attention to one of your peers.

meth lab for doug flutie (sanskrit), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 13:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I try to send a little business his way now and then

http://bushofghosts.wmg.com/watch_video.php

Brakhage (brakhage), Saturday, 25 March 2006 00:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Of course they had to go and misspell his name on the site

Brakhage (brakhage), Saturday, 25 March 2006 00:30 (eighteen years ago) link

It's in the shops in Belgium! (It's an Enhanced CD, no DualDisc. The Mea Culpa video is a 34Mb Quicktime file)

Please don't share that demos zip file from upthread anymore, the demos from in there are on the remastered edition (reworked versions, I think, they're not 100% the same). Here's the three that we knew from the crackly vinyl bootleg:

Pitch to Voltage (= cunning tendacy = on the way to zagora)
Two Against Three (= iron bed = the friends of amos tutuola)
Vocal Outtakes (not on the bootlegs) (weird vocal effects)
New Feet (not on the bootlegs) (weird rhythmical eastern thing)
Defiant (not on the bootlegs) (very different version of The Jezebel Spirit and Lot/Into The Spirit World)
Number 8 Mix (= late but not serious = les hommes ne sauront jamais)
Solo Guitar with Tin Foil (not on the bootlegs) (quiet ambient track, completely different from everything else on this disc)

First impression of the sound: much louder than before. it's not as drastic as I had expected, but the sound is WAY better. (I had feared the removal of all the tape hiss, but they haven't done that, so it still sounds like the analog cut+paste experiment it really is instead of some clinically clean digital sampler sequence they could have made from it.)

Very nice packaging & booklet. Essay by David Toop and a kind of Making Of report by Eno & Byrne, plus some of the studio pics that are also on the www.bush-of-ghosts.com site.

StanM (StanM), Saturday, 25 March 2006 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Here's the three that we knew from the crackly vinyl bootleg:

(... and the 4 new tracks we didn't.)

StanM (StanM), Saturday, 25 March 2006 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.bush-of-ghosts.com (very active lately: e.g. a press release dated 03/25/06 , but the remix site is still coming soon)

StanM (StanM), Saturday, 25 March 2006 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

NOW I get it! That press release only concerns the US, apparently. "Nonesuch Records & EMI are proud to announce the release on April 11 of seminal collaborative"

But the one I just bought is Virgin Records/EMI and made in EU, release date March 27th. The one I had on preorder from Amazon UK was the import version, they added the regular European edition after I placed that order.

Anyway. Nevermind. I was slightly confused but now I finally understand the release dates are two weeks apart.

StanM (StanM), Saturday, 25 March 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry to hijack this thread, but I just discovered something. :-)

While making this mp3 file for you all (10 seconds of Regiment from EGCD48, half a second of silence and the same 10 seconds from the new edition), I found out that this section is at 2:40 on the old CD and at 2:54 on the new one. So they've done more than just clean up the old tapes.

Compare: 2 x 10 seconds of Regiment. (662 kb mp3 file, 256 kb/sec LAME compression, ripped with EAC, same settings, same drive, no normalization)

StanM (StanM), Saturday, 25 March 2006 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link


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