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haha i kinda like it, even though its an awful vocal, in a way.

but nothing, nothing could be worse than he vocam on slam's "this world", wighnomy remix or no. is there a dub version of their remix, cos i really like the tune, but the vocal is unbeliveably bad.

this on the other hand, is kinda stupid, but i quite like the falsetto bit. doesnt last very long though.

generally, shit vocals have got to stop though, i agree. "selection 3" to thread.

― ambrose (ambrose), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

i had blocked the slam track out of my mind - thanks ambrose, i need therapy again.

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't mind his vocal too much, perhaps as it does sound a wee bit like john balance. it's the falsetto vocal to the end that grates, although maybe it'll grow on me. kind of underwhelmed though.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

that's a re-recorded the vocal right?! it doesn't sound as good as on the original

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 23 July 2005 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link

How can they get the music so right and the vocals so wrong? They should hire the lot of us as vocal/lyrical consultants.

The falsetto does warm some small place in my heart, though.

― jergins (jergins), Saturday, 23 July 2005 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm wondering if it's a re-recorded vocal too. The original "I Built This City" is amazing - it doesn't sound so Neil Tennant/spoken wordish, and the falsetto which comes in during the bridge is much more of a payoff. It's also much more disco pop than Mayer's version!

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 23 July 2005 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah I like the original 'I Built this City' way better than the remix as well! The remix would be way better without any vocals. The way he's done this remix reminds me of "Love is Stronger than Pride" -- substitute the "you you you you..." in place of "pride pride pride pride..." etc....except that track ruled and this doesn't.

― geeta (geeta), Saturday, 23 July 2005 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, there's a Wighnomy Dub of Slam's "This World." And I love that dominatrix vocal track on Selection 3, although I could see people thinking it's silly.

xpost - Does anyone know if the original "Built This City" will be on the 12" or is it just the Justus/Mayer mixes?

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 23 July 2005 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link

how is the justus remix of 'i built this city'? i haven't heard that one.

― geeta (geeta), Saturday, 23 July 2005 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

fuck the lyrical moaning, this sounds like the Pet Shop Boys! (and is hence great)

this sounded amazing in Glasgow that faithful night.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

and again in Dublin, this (a little less) miserable night!

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

you just need to get busted again.

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I meant the night is a little less miserable having heard it!

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I have to say the Mayer remix is a certain type of track, it's really peak time plateau kind of stuff, the night he played he dropped it and it sounded like the greatest thing ever, just really *right* for that moment when the unspoken consensus that a DJ has done a really really good job seems to fall into a club from the sky. So like, particularly if you've got DJs good enough to do real journey type sets then this mix is fantastic I think.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

mayer played this tonight and in cologne and it sounded fantastic in the context of what he was playing but i still don't think i'd touch it with a bargepole. highlight of the night - justus koehncke - 'german clubs are the most boring in the world. mini maaal must die'.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 24 July 2005 03:41 (eighteen years ago) link

and i can still never spell 'kohncke'.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 24 July 2005 03:53 (eighteen years ago) link

It's awful, I really don't like it all. I'm not sure that any mix or huge system could save those vocals. Though possibly drugs might improve things, just long enough to wait for the next track...

― Mika, Sunday, 24 July 2005 05:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I love it. Ronan explains why.

― Omar (Omar), Sunday, 24 July 2005 06:31 (eighteen years ago) link

what ronan's saying makes a lot of sense, but it'd really have to be in the right part of the night, with the right dj. the part where the doom-laden vocals drop out and the falsetto comes in is awesome--i can see that part really making a dancefloor go nuts.

also, i think that if the baxendale vocals in the mayer mix were sung in german instead of english, we'd all be like 'ooh that sounds so cool and dark and mysterious!' etc etc instead of hating it, ha.

― geeta (geeta), Sunday, 24 July 2005 06:48 (eighteen years ago) link

...and i just realized that if you go to www.minimal.de, it's a supermarket! there's a german grocery store chain called miniMAL. the germans have gone too far this time.

― geeta (geeta), Sunday, 24 July 2005 06:58 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah that's never happened before!

― strng hlkngtn, Sunday, 24 July 2005 10:33 (eighteen years ago) link

i like the baxendale track okay. it's no more stupid or pretentious than the kylie/"lovefood" (not a track i exactly love to begin with) mashup. but that's two tracks out of 24, so i can forgive.

― strng hlkngtn, Sunday, 24 July 2005 10:34 (eighteen years ago) link

wow, i can't believe i'm in such a small minority! the falsetto part absolutely slays me.

geeta so otm re: if it were in german..

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 24 July 2005 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link

the bit where the falsetto comes in is AWESOME and made me squeal.

the over-egged amateur dramatic vocals less so, but I can certainly see my opinion changing in the right circumstances (ie what Ronan and Geeta said).

― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 24 July 2005 11:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I have no problem with the vocals on the remix (have yet to hear the original version), and certainly don't understand the idea that Mayer's deployed them awkwardly (I can more easily understand objecting to them for their own sake).

If anything the remix is yet another example of how effortlessly good Mayer's music sounds when he has a vocal to frame. This reminds me a lot of the "Happiness" remix with its insistent pulse. Everyone who says that the falsetto bit should last longer is spot-on though; I think he could have looped it for ages and ages and ages. It's not as good as his mix of Nathan Fake's "Coheed" though.

Of the (standalone) Mayer remixes i've heard I'd rank them as follows:

The Modernist - Protest Song
Frank Martiniq - Adriano
Superpitcher - Happiness
Nathan Fake - Coheed
Antonelli Electr - The Vogue
Miss Kittin - Happy Violentine
Baxter - I Built This City
Paul Nazca - Emotion
Egoexpress - Telefunken
Agoria - Sky Is Clear
P.W.O.G. - Kind Of Prayer
Donna Regina - Star Ferry
Sven Vath - Face It
Matthias Schaffhauser - Nice To Meet You

... Time for a compilation I reckon.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 24 July 2005 12:20 (eighteen years ago) link

the falsetto just sounds like a really bad version of the scissor sisters to me.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 24 July 2005 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link

the falsetto just sounds like a really bad version of the scissor sisters to me.

i guess so, but still i prefer this vocal meme to the shouty-newyork-yelphouse cf tiefschwarz eat books at any rate, which is like, my worst nightmare.

― ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 24 July 2005 12:43 (eighteen years ago) link

oh god yes - t raumschmiere's fallen prey to it on his album too. eat books is disappointing in pretty much every possible way but I swear some of those vocals would ruin even tiefschwarz at their best.

― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 24 July 2005 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link

the proper release of eat books has some good tunes! the tracey thorn track and the ed laliq one that weren't on the leaked sampler are the best things on the record! both very good!

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 24 July 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

...I like the falsetto.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Sunday, 24 July 2005 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the falsetto and the John Balance bit alot!

― $4.87777765546556.00, Sunday, 24 July 2005 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I like it all.

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 24 July 2005 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

This thread has gone long enough without the original Baxendale version, with lots of falsetto fun:

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0WYXCWP9G9BEL3O4TQZTGYQC8P

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 24 July 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

slowly....seeping....into...my....subconcious....

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 24 July 2005 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link

It sounds so much like Rex the Dog!

At the risk of sounding ignorant for not knowing why, is this produced by the same guy? I couldn't find any information on discogs.

― Mika, Monday, 25 July 2005 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I assume the original was produced by Baxendale themselves.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 25 July 2005 01:43 (eighteen years ago) link

how can anyone hate the vocals?! name me one thing more dramatic than an englisher on the edge of tears!

― Barnaby (Barnaby), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 00:16 (eighteen years ago) link

It definitely makes for some uncomfortably listening

― Mika, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 00:45 (eighteen years ago) link

name me one thing more dramatic than an englisher on the edge of tears!

http://www.achewood.com/comic.php?date=06022003

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 00:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Jesus, geeta just played me a Koze 12" last night, can't remember which one, and it's enormous, stompy, spare. Slight metallic echoes, like a sphere of 1/4" steel being rhythmically flexed. God I love techno.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 01:33 (eighteen years ago) link

sounds like brutalga square. c'est delicieux.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 01:52 (eighteen years ago) link

this mayer baxendale remix is amazing, i don't understand whay you don't all love it!

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 06:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I love it toby. But the hate for it is poisonous b/c the idea of it being awful makes so much sense that I begin to doubt myself while listening to it.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 06:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Resist Tim! RESIST!!!

― Barnaby (Barnaby), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 08:30 (eighteen years ago) link

it is amazing. it is one of the best "big" things this year.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 08:46 (eighteen years ago) link

if i only knew why i like happiness (mayer mix) but hate i built this city (mayer mix); they are so similar

― fe zaffe (fezaffe), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 09:26 (eighteen years ago) link

"Resist Tim! RESIST!!! "

On my walk between the tram stop and my house on the way home from work it sounded AWESOME. So much so that I played it again when going to get some ice cream and it was merely VERY GOOD. I fully expect it to be AWESOME next time though. It's one of those tunes.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 11:31 (eighteen years ago) link

here's superpitcher - "tell me about it"
http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=286T40ODOI5YM321QWADAD92G7

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 11:37 (eighteen years ago) link

s'ok.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 11:59 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah i'm not crazy about it either. it's a little too nettwerk remix for my tastes.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 12:10 (eighteen years ago) link

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