What will the general attitude towards Radiohead be in twenty or thirty years?

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karma police is not where the record shines. that's in Exit music, Let down, Climbing up the walls, etc. fuck KP.

― AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

"OK Computer" is obviously their masterpiece. Great songs and great arrangements. The arrangements were still great on "Kid A", but sadly the songs went nowhere.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:04 (eighteen years ago) link

What songs go nowhere? "Everything in Its Right Place"? That goes to "Kid A." "Kid A"? That goes to "The National Anthem." "The National Anthem" goes to "How to Disappear Completely," and so on, and so forth. That effect of each song building off the last, climaxing in "Idioteque," and descending into the ether through "Morning Bell" and "Motion Picture Soundtrack," is what makes Kid A great. The good songs on OK Computer are as strong as they are on The Bends and on Kid A; Kid A has a cohesion to it they'd never previously achieved, and still haven't matched.

― beta ray bill, Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link

What songs go nowhere?

Most. "Knives Out" and "Optimistic" aren't too bad, but the rest are go nowhere. They are repetitive, monotonous, lack an obvious chorus etc. etc. They lack climax simply. You may call the kind of song I want "formulaic", but there is a reason for that formula. It is there because it works better than anything else.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:17 (eighteen years ago) link

They laugh at you like Scott Teneman.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Geir, I'll put it in your terms. Their climax is the next song. And the climax of that song is the song after that, all the way to the end of the album.

― beta ray bill, Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link

radiohead are one of those groups people like because of their sound--songs are not even the point. I never understood "OK Computer" but could kind of see "Kid A," as a record, not as a collection of songs. I guess REM will be sorta like Badfinger or the Hollies, nice second-level deriviative group with some nice tunes, Teenage Fanclub will be like the Searchers or Freddie and the Dreamers...I dunno, once you get into this level of derivative-plus-production values thing, you come up with nothing, in my opinion. I have friends who love Radiohead and keep trying to get me to get into them, but I guess I'm put off by the sameness of it all; to me they have the same relationship to Pink Floyd or whoever than, I dunno, Jellyfish has to Jimmy Webb or the Beach Boys. Anyway, people still listen to Badfinger or the Hollies, they'll probably still be listening to Radiohead in 2025.

― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Songs are always the point. And "OK Computer" is crowded with great ones.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 2 June 2005 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought being insufferable was the point

― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Thursday, 2 June 2005 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Geir: Been reading Nick Hornby lately?

― Nigel (Nigel), Thursday, 2 June 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

It's no good telling sexual metaphors to Geir. I suspect he knows very little, if anything, about sex.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 3 June 2005 05:22 (eighteen years ago) link

six years pass...

I make the Beatles analogy only because no one since the Beatles has written better music. Obviously they haven't had the cultural impact, etc., but hopefully popular music will progress in such a way that, in the future, people will listen back and realize how important they were.

― Nigel (Nigel), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 21:43 (6 years ago)

― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

radiohead is a good band

― fela cudi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

Personally, I think they're important for being the first band to successfully fuse IDM (or whatever people call it these days) and rock/pop

madonna might disagree with that.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, June 2, 2005 2:41 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
bjork might argue too.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, June 2, 2005 2:47 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm! also, tori amos.

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

i wonder if they'll reboot bands like they reboot movie franchises, and this will be the only way people of the future can find meaning in it.
conceivably gorillaz could be resurrected by pixar indefinitely.
not looking forward to jj abrams jr.'s radiohead.

― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

wait, madonna did pop + idm? if generic trancey beats ala William Orbit = IDM to you, smh. am i missing some great madonna track that fuses pop + idm?

― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

I doubt they'll be making music together, but they will certainly be considered among the "canon" by one "The Bends"/"OK Computer" camp and one "Kid A" camp.

― Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link

I can see OK Computer being reissued about a million times

― frogbs, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

If the CD survives, that is....
(Which I believe it will, but obviously streaming is a bigger threat towards the CD than digital downloading ever was - because streaming is legal and earns the artists money)

― Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

radiohead is a good band

― fela cudi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, August 23, 2011 5:24 PM

boom

― markers, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:30 (twelve years ago) link

they could redo the whole album digitally like george lucas and make it rhyme more.

― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

or remove Thom Yorke completely and make the albums pleasurable to listen to

― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

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"Mesa Karma Police, arrest mesa man..."

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha

― markers, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link

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