Ministry "With Sympathy" C/D

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we went through the window, quiet as a mouse"

Isn't it "IN through the window...."?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

perhaps, it is. regardless, i like the idea of jourganson being quiet as a mouse.

also, the chick who comes in during "i wanted to tell her" is so freakin 80s. that nasal-ly "you touch me bay-bee" would fit perfectly on an expose album.

my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

How'd I miss this thread last month?

Classic, of course.

TKK opening for Ministry would be wonderful, though I saw TKK open for Siouxsie et al around '92, and that was pretty cool.

Hm. What ever happened to Machines of Loving Grace? I saw them open for TKK at Shitty Gardens in maybe '93 or '94 now that I think of it.

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

ha! that 'quiet as a mouse' line is the one that always sticks in my head too. thanks to this thread i have listened to 'revenge' about 20 times over the last fortnight.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link

MACHINES OF LOVING GRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG

Dan (BURN LIKE BRILLIANT TRASH) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link

The best thing is that maybe 10 minutes after I made that post "The Richest Junkie Still Alive" popped up on shuffle from my iPod. I didn't even remember I had Gilt in here.

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Gilt was really underrated when it came out. A lot of people thought there was gonna be another Jackie's Funeral, but it was pretty damn solid as a cohesive piece. I think I listen to it more than anything else (aside from All I Really Need's swearing mix, which is fun to put on tapes).

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 01:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw MLG open for Peter Murphy back in 1992. Good times.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 01:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw Ministry at Comiskey park back in July of '83 at this huge show:

http://www.police.cybercomm.nl/pictures/s19830723.jpg

I finally picked up a bunch of the Ministry stuff that Wax Trax was selling, after this show, including the Special Affect LP.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 02:03 (eighteen years ago) link

(Btw, Simple Minds for some reason didn't play that show, which is why Ministry got the nod. At the time, Ministry were not a well known commodity in Chicago at all.)

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 02:07 (eighteen years ago) link

People are talking about Machines of Loving Grace and they never get love :) How can people still listen to old NIN albums and not those guys?

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:54 (eighteen years ago) link

wow -- sting AND al jourgeson on the same stage in the same venue at the same time. i'm amazed that the universe didn't implode.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 06:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe MoLG need their own thread.

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

i'm not an F-A-G

Eisbaer, Sunday, 27 April 2008 05:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Some of my friends went to see them tonight. I kinda wish I had gone, I listened to them a lot when I was younger.

circa1916, Sunday, 27 April 2008 06:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Still a brilliant record.

Alex in NYC, Sunday, 27 April 2008 12:17 (sixteen years ago) link

their best moment!

cutty, Sunday, 27 April 2008 12:31 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm not an F-A-G

never occurred to me that it could be heard that way but you are right

akm, Sunday, 27 April 2008 14:50 (sixteen years ago) link

A cougar is more like a kitten than it is like a velociraptor but that doesn't mean it would make an appropriate pet for a four-year-old.

-- The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:42 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

heh

latebloomer, Sunday, 27 April 2008 15:17 (sixteen years ago) link

the corridor, yes the corridor

latebloomer, Sunday, 27 April 2008 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Ein kluges Äpfelchen (Eisbaer), Thursday, 29 January 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

YES THE CORRIDOR

cutty, Thursday, 29 January 2009 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link

FAR BELOW, FAR BELOW, FAR BELOW IS THE PLACE YOU'LL GO, HO!

Alex in NYC, Friday, 30 January 2009 01:53 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm loving al jourgeson's adam ant haircut/earring.

Ein kluges Äpfelchen (Eisbaer), Friday, 30 January 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Whatever happened to the Other Guy in Ministry circa With Sympathy?

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 30 January 2009 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Al was on a VH1 Classic show ("Hangin' With", I think) where he was playing videos by his band and bands that he liked, and he actually played the above video, so I guess he's at peace with his hilarious past.

Vulgar Display of Flowers (J3ff T.), Friday, 30 January 2009 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link

You're assuming that he wasn't hilarious after that.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 30 January 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, but he was hilarious in a different way.

Vulgar Display of Flowers (J3ff T.), Friday, 30 January 2009 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link

[cue Butthead's impression from the "NWO" video]

Vulgar Display of Flowers (J3ff T.), Friday, 30 January 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

six months pass...

this fuckin record

pretzel walrus, Friday, 31 July 2009 06:45 (fourteen years ago) link

so great

pretzel walrus, Friday, 31 July 2009 06:45 (fourteen years ago) link

really?! must investigate.

daria, actually (daria-g), Friday, 31 July 2009 07:00 (fourteen years ago) link

four years pass...
two years pass...

CLASSIC!

Turrican, Monday, 26 October 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link

Is it wrong that I actually prefer this album to everything that Jourgensen did afterwards? Taken on its own terms, I think this is a wonderful record. Not only does it slot in nicely with early '80s UK synthpop, it actually manages to hold its own in comparison to the best of the stuff that was happening in the genre at that time. Wonderful stuff.

Turrican, Monday, 26 October 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link

I don't think it's a particularly surprising opinion to have; the collection of songs he put together on that package exist in a universe almost directly orthogonal to every other release he put out

(that said, #TeamTwitch all day every day; IMO that is a superlative album)

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 26 October 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link

Falls after the first half

brimstead, Monday, 26 October 2015 20:48 (eight years ago) link

xpost:

Yeah, I like Twitch too, but With Sympathy is one of those records I always find myself returning to!

Turrican, Monday, 26 October 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link

WHAT HE SAY!?

LET'S DANCE!

*totally fucking absurd synth-trumpet breakdown section*

Turrican, Saturday, 31 October 2015 00:57 (eight years ago) link

it's alright, but I can't get with anyone hwo thinks it's superior to either twitch or A Mind... both of which seem more groundbreaking and involving.

akm, Saturday, 31 October 2015 21:40 (eight years ago) link

Falls after the first half

― brimstead, Monday, October 26, 2015 8:48 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh, the first half of the album is wonderful, but I love 'Here We Go', 'Say You're Sorry' and particularly 'She's Got a Cause'

Turrican, Sunday, 1 November 2015 01:16 (eight years ago) link

it's not groundbreaking but the songs (mostly) are just so great. twitch will always be my ultimate ministry album but "work for love" (as it will always be known to me and most euro-ministry fans) is pretty much my definition of perfect pop.

stirmonster, Sunday, 1 November 2015 07:22 (eight years ago) link

Great surprise to see Yvonne Gage in Shay Jones' role, three years after she made "Garden of Eve," one of the best boogie records.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOD5pxdZiyo

Andy K, Sunday, 1 November 2015 14:23 (eight years ago) link

The thing about Twitch is that I can still detect some UK electro influence in it, particularly Fad Gadget.

Turrican, Sunday, 1 November 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link

I was surprised to learn that Flood worked on With Sympathy, actually... this surely must have been one of the earliest album he worked on, although not as a producer?

Turrican, Sunday, 1 November 2015 21:19 (eight years ago) link

three years pass...

hoo boy, classic

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 26 April 2019 02:04 (five years ago) link

can't tell you how unsurprised i am to see djp in this thread

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 26 April 2019 02:09 (five years ago) link

Doesn't Flood have a credit on the first New Order record?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 April 2019 02:32 (five years ago) link

Certainly Filth Pig is a bigger stain on the Ministry catalog than With Sympathy...

otm

john. a resident of evanston. (john. a resident of chicago.), Friday, 26 April 2019 02:36 (five years ago) link


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