NME's 'C86 Compilation'.... C&D, S&D, Say Something Interesting About, etc etc etc...

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My main problem with the C86 comp is that most of the really really awesome songs that get labeled as "C86" aren't actually on the C86 comp.

Somebody said it up there

― Diddumsismus (Dada), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

"Velocity Girl" is the same start track on both.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

That's because "Velocity Girl" was (that incarnation of) Primal Scream's best track, nobody else on C86 was represented by their best tracks (they were mostly rubbish tracks that would have ended up stuck on the b-side of a 12")

― Diddumsismus (Dada), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Did The Bodines record a better song than "Therese"?!

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

About half of the first Bodines album is about as good as "Therese".

"nobody else on C86 was represented by their best tracks "

So true. Though Buffalo is Stump's most likable track.

― everything (everything), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

The McCarthy track put me off them for far too long.

― Venga (Venga), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Gasp! You dare diss the McCarthy track! For shame!

― Bassment Jacks (Bimble...), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

C'mon man, it's far from their best.

― everything (everything), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

ex-heavenly peeps have a lock on this stuff:

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/features/story/0,,1930836,00.html

― benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 07:34 (seventeen years ago) link

nicky wire was in heavenly? what did he do, write lyrics for "i fell in love last night"?

― electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 07:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm guessing Enrique means Heavenly records.

― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 07:54 (seventeen years ago) link

(er, I might deserve some kind of whoosh for completely missing the irony there. lif so I'm sorry, I'm not really awake.)

― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 07:55 (seventeen years ago) link

haha

― electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 07:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i met the something-or-other from heavenly-thee-band. very serious dude.

― benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:00 (seventeen years ago) link

peter?

― electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:05 (seventeen years ago) link

dunno.

― benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:08 (seventeen years ago) link

C86 - Still Doing It For Fun

OK so you steal Bachelor Pad titles for your crappy "celebration" but you try finding their music on CD. Ya bastids!

― Dadaismus (Gives You The Big Reassure) (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone going to any of this? I suppose it is as important not to go as it is for the original bands not to have reformed. But it might be quite good.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I've just seen the price. As you were.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:27 (seventeen years ago) link

last.fm is the source of much Heavenly amusement / confusion.
http://www.last.fm/music/Heavenly

cathy was last seen on tv crashing cars with henry rollins. which was funny. juxtaposition.

― Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I've just seen the Magic Numbers are playing at it. As you were.

― Dadaismus (Gives You The Big Reassure) (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Says a lot about today's music scene that C86 gets revived whereas C81 does not (or did the, cough, post-punk "revival" cover the latter?).

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:31 (seventeen years ago) link

yes... it did! i think the post-punk revival was fairly well covered.

― benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:33 (seventeen years ago) link

But there wasn't a specific "sound" to C81, the music was all different

― Dadaismus (Gives You The Big Reassure) (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:35 (seventeen years ago) link

And so much better.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Well yes, obviously, but a different thing altogether

― Dadaismus (Gives You The Big Reassure) (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:38 (seventeen years ago) link

As different as the Brotherhood of Breath were to the Brotherhood of Man.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I stayed at Amelia Fletcher and the other feller from Heavenly's house once. They were very nice.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Did you see her in her knickers?

I ask that question as a public service, rather than for my own ends.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 09:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't ask on my account

― The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 09:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Soz, no.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Nicky Wire reminisces, 'it were all 7" singles, when I was a lad'

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Not the same Nicky Wire who plays in the Manic Street Preachers who used to go on about how shit and unambitious and grey C86 was and how the only two important groups in the world were Public Enemy and Guns N' Roses, then.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, funny that isn't it?

― The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:37 (seventeen years ago) link

lex would have liked the early manics, i think -- wasn't all that stuff classic nme-bait? they were the ultimate interviews band.

― benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes but guitars ew.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Lex has better taste than that!

― The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:42 (seventeen years ago) link

http://bani.anime.net/o_rly.jpg

― benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:49 (seventeen years ago) link

"OK so you steal Bachelor Pad titles for your crappy "celebration" but you try finding their music on CD. Ya bastids!"

Hear, hear!

Later period stuff is possibly forthcoming: http://www.eggrecords.co.uk/future.asp

I have Tales of Hoffmann on cd. But what about the Warholasound period?

― everything (everything), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm sure i once saw a Bachelor Pad cd with all their early stuff on it.
i passed it by and have regreted it ever since.

― mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

It must have been the cd of "Tales of Hoffmann" on Imaginary. Albums of Jack/Do it for Fun etc have never been on cd.

― everything (everything), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/news/article1932714.ece

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 27 October 2006 09:29 (seventeen years ago) link

There were also landmark albums that year from artists as diverse as Elvis Costello, Billy Bragg, Miles Davis and Prince

Selective music history as David Cameron would appreciate it. No nasty Def Jam hip hop there!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 27 October 2006 09:34 (seventeen years ago) link

all history is selective, to be fair.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 27 October 2006 09:35 (seventeen years ago) link

How an NME cassette launched indie music

No it didn't

C86, the unassuming mail-order cassette compiled by NME, through which the indie sound and scene first coalesced

No it didn't

― The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Friday, 27 October 2006 09:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Later period stuff is possibly forthcoming: http://www.eggrecords.co.uk/future.asp

It's been forthcoming for yonks, with no end in sight

― The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Friday, 27 October 2006 09:37 (seventeen years ago) link

It's the sort of record collection a Cameron voter would have ("Billy Bragg, oh that reminds me of my student days, his politics are a bit embarrassing now aren't they darling?").

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 27 October 2006 09:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think the artists were "baffled" by black music either, but still...

I don't think many Billy Bragg fans defected to the Tory ranks. I could be wrong though.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 27 October 2006 09:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think the artists were "baffled" by black music either, but still...

I don't think many of them listened to it either

― The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Friday, 27 October 2006 09:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I think a lot of black folks may well have been baffled by the C86 crew, if they ever got off their black asses to listen to it.

"Later period stuff is possibly forthcoming: http://www.eggrecords.co.uk/future.asp
It's been forthcoming for yonks, with no end in sight"

Hence the "possibly". Jim Kavanagh showed up on the "forthcoming from LTM" thread to talk about this a while ago:

"The Bachelor Pad
The track listing is still undecided for various reasons .. however it will have the original version of "girl of your dreams" (from original tape) as released with my fanzine of the time "simply thrilled" (and others). Warhola singles maybe (anyone know the whereabouts of Mike Stout), rarities maybe. There is so many.

I have the 7 songs from the "frying tonight" concert will possibly release at some point maybe as a download "EP"... thats one of the reasons the track listing is still undecided, there too many options!

Remember Fun

I have "re-mastered" the original "train journey" etc demo, sounds fine, there seemed to a story around at the time of the matinee single that masters where lost - I had some (but not all). The guys are recording some new songs (original band) 'cos they wanted to.

Even As We Speak

Possibly rare/unreleased stuff, watch this space as they say but it all takes soooooo long.

I couldnt say why Oz labels are not interested (hey they know where I am if they want to help!)

I also have plans for releases from Lets Go Naked. Not as well known as EAWS/Lighthouse Keepers but excellent.

Thanks for the interest and yeah I found the "chicken rhythmn" reference, Its a long thread!

Jim

-- Jim Kavanagh (inf...), October 28th, 2005.

― everything (everything), Friday, 27 October 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

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