why is everyone so sold on M.I.A?

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andreas! where have u heard these?

― piscesboy, Sunday, 26 September 2004 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link

WHERE IS TEH ALBUM?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 26 September 2004 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Richard X fuck off please.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 26 September 2004 14:29 (nineteen years ago) link

jed you need a vacation.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 26 September 2004 14:29 (nineteen years ago) link

or an E.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 26 September 2004 14:29 (nineteen years ago) link

you're so right about the first one.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 26 September 2004 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link

don't we all.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 26 September 2004 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link

between annie, rachel stevens, MIA, and a handful of other things i feel like we're moving into some renewed golden age for modernist girl pop.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 26 September 2004 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Willing to do the Rough Guide to Modernist Girl Pop (Golden Age)?

― Jedmond (Jedmond), Sunday, 26 September 2004 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

i wouldn't even know where to begin.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 26 September 2004 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link

also i'd probably lapse into petty, indefensible ideological justifications for why MIA and destiny's child operate in separate aesthetic universes.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 26 September 2004 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

You've already made a good start - and admit it - making petty, indefensible ideological justifications is half the fun. Or am I just being lazy and opting out of doing one myself.

― Jedmond (Jedmond), Sunday, 26 September 2004 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

MIA just seems to be bred for hipster acceptance and although I like the song OK I don't see what everyone's raving about. Also I am REALLY not looking forward to the time when all the 'hipsters' at my college keep asking if I've heard of MIA three months from now and I have to keep hearing it at parties along with THE SAME DAMN LE TIGRE SONGS i've heard for the past 3 years.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link

(x-post)Is the MIA album still not slskable?

It's a tough life at Wooster ain't it?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Also I don't see the connection to dancehall at all. It seems just as connected to electroclash. But what the fuck do I know.
Alex, you can connect the dots good job.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

PS: I graduate this year so fuckit.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

You don't see any rhythmic connection between MIA and dancehall??!? (I mean I'm not going going to deny the electroclash element but to write out dancehall altogether seems completely suspect.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess I see some sort of rhythmic influence but to suggest that it IS dancehall just seems absurd.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Who the hell suggested that?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link

admittedly blurring some lines here (mostly to get a full cd's worth) and trying to keep it to the last two or so years (with a few exceptions).

1. Sugababes - "Freak Like Me"
2. Girls Aloud - "No Good Advice"
3. Annie - "The Greatest Hit"
4. Rachel Stevens - "Some Girls"
5. Whigfield - "Was A Time"
6. Kelis - "Flashback"
7. Amerie - "I Just Died"
8. Nina Sky - "Move Ya Body"
9. Christina Milian - "Dip It Low"
10. MIA - "Galang"
11. Britney - "Toxic"
12. Ciara - "Goodies"
13. Lady Sov - "Chi-Ching (Cheque 1-2)"
14. Toya - "I Do"
15.
16. Destiny's Child - "Say My Name"

― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I also don't get this whole "the last minute is transcendent!"* thing.

*not an actual quote

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Stelfox sez:
"i'm hearing people describing her as dancehall"

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

So is 15 the John Cage contribution?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

bah 15 disappeared and now i forget what it is!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll take that comp (I have to admit having doubts about track 15).

How is something as giddy as "Sun Shawa" considered to be electroclash? (besides potential hipster connection)

Admittedly - hipster connection is powerful - which is why Arthur Russell is in the electroclash section at my local record store (meaargh).

Xpost x 4

― Jedmond (Jedmond), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Dave is fibbing. I can see someone saying that she either borrows liberally from dancehall, but I don't think anyone is really calling her "real" dancehall any more than oh they called Gang of Four a "real" funk band or PiL a "real" dub act.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Also I can't find the South Rakkas Crew remix of Galang right now and it's irritating me.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link

they should have just stuck the vocal over "clappas"

― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

personally i like "galang" (outside of it just being great) because it sits outside (and inside) (and side to side) of both grime and dancehall. dave is just on his hardcore scene hobbyhorse again. and face it, without the fat truckers revelation we'd never be calling this electroclash.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

if you cant see galang's connection to dancehall you are deaf.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha I wonder did people fuck with the Pop Group back in the day for using ideas from dub and funk? "Well they're okay, but they aren't Mandrill or Keith Hudson or anything. I prefer the real thing."

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

if you cant see galang's connection to dancehall you are deaf.
I don't think anyone has said they don't see a connection.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link

i heard a stream, but someone should gmail me an mp3.

― Roland Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Sunday, 26 September 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

"Also I don't see the connection to dancehall at all. - djdee"

Um I think you said it.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 26 September 2004 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

i kinda hoped this thread was abt teh germs.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Sunday, 26 September 2004 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

i got an mp3 of it already.

i don't understand how someone could say this song doesn't have roots in dancehall.

― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Sunday, 26 September 2004 18:25 (nineteen years ago) link

"Also I don't see the connection to dancehall at all. - djdee"

Um I think you said it.

overstatement i apologize. But I also said "it seems just as connected as electroclash" and I was more responding to what Stelfox had said about people claiming it to be dancehall.

Alex in SF keeping me on my toes.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 26 September 2004 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link

djdee I graduated a few years ago, I can't recommend it enough! I'm a part-time Chinese emperor now.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Sunday, 26 September 2004 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link

you're great!

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 26 September 2004 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks! Have a fiefdom.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Sunday, 26 September 2004 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Jess, I think track 15 should be "My Neck, My Back" or Ghost Town DJ's "My Boo".

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 27 September 2004 00:05 (nineteen years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

Now a Member of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire. Radical.

― John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Saturday, 8 June 2019 10:17 (four years ago) link

lol! 10 for a penny are these faux angry-young-firebrands.

― calzino, Saturday, 8 June 2019 11:03 (four years ago) link

she's no cold war steve

― mark s, Saturday, 8 June 2019 11:04 (four years ago) link

did he do a collage of the queen in the bath with phil mitchell and got a million lolz? See anyone can do that shit!

― calzino, Saturday, 8 June 2019 11:06 (four years ago) link

he is the MIA of albert square

― mark s, Saturday, 8 June 2019 11:18 (four years ago) link

i just wished she had the same courage of convictions Paul Weller displayed when he angrily launched into an unequivocally anti-imperialist tirade + told Lilibet where to stick her title.

― calzino, Saturday, 8 June 2019 11:24 (four years ago) link

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