I'd like to use Linux but...

I can provide hints and tips

-- Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, January 9, 2008 3:02 AM

awes

xp, thanks. Things have certainly moved on since I last used Linux in anger. http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/thread/20071111.064900.63247010.en.html#i20071111.064900.63247010 suggests to me that this is going to be impossible on a Debian 3.0 system on which I am not root.

Is the best bet for a filesystem that both Linux and OS X can read still FAT32?

Ubuntu 7.10 can read and write to ntfs now.

for the folks who need photoshop. it's not free or open source, but it runs on linux.

and it's about half the price of photoshop.

btw is it pronounced lie-nux or linn-ux ?

latter...

http://www.boxingforum.com/photopost/data/2/Lennox-Lewis.jpg

Actually

Yeah but he has an accent, see....

Lee-nux or Linn-ux. But not Lie-nux.

for me, Lie-nux even though i know that's wrong - i knew it was named after Linus T but figured his name was pronounced the same as the Peanuts character... i am too old to change my ways now.

i run linux (new computer) and winxp (old) ... i chose fedora 8 because it has pulseaudio which let's me connect audio software. also cause vista is too pricey and will probably end up being slow. (it's not very fast on my wife's laptop.)

i still end up using my old windows box a lot tho.

seriously, linux has gotten WAY easier than it used to be. you don't have to be a smug fuck... just possibly a poor fuck whose willing to try something a little different.

i say lihnnucks... lienucks makes sense... lee-nucks i don't have the accent for. it would be awkward.
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From a job seeker's perspective:

I started with Linux back in 2000. I've only had intermittent opportunities to work with it since then, mainly since I've been employed to do Microsofty things and have lacked the time to take it on seriously as a home project.

A few years ago I decided to do a BA in a completely unrelated subject and now I've just returned to the real world and am looking for a job. I now notice that A LOT of analyst or admin type job adverts now say something like 'experience administering Windows and Linux servers.' This is a pretty sharp contrast to what it was five years ago when you had to ASK your boss to let you run a Linux server.

Surely this can't be true. Surely it's got something to do with trying to push more IT training through the economy, or filter out a glut of workers that are the product of an earlier surge of cheap IT skills. These are pretty unremarkable jobs, often targeted at total n00bs to the industry, so I find it hard to believe the level of skill expected has actually gone up that much and that this isn't some sort of Best Value-generation exercise.

My question for you all is what you think 'must have Linux experience' actually translates to in terms of familiarity with the O/S, considering most people who say they do probably don't (maybe they took Introduction to Linux or some shit two-day course) and most jobs that are framed primarily in terms of a Microsoft-style analyst/support role probably don't DARE actually let average IT bods loose on the Linux servers .... See what I mean?

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i don't know how to partition my hard drive

"must have linux experience" means that you should not immediately freak the fuck out when confronted with a *nix window manager other than Apple's Finder.

and you should know how to get around in bash.

I'm involved in an erp selection process and oracle is recommending running their system on linux. when a tier 1 erp provider is recommending you run a mission critical app on linux, I'd say it's arrived. 5 years ago they would've been recommending hp-ux or aix, so things have definitely changed.

Oracle has been humping Linux for some time. Probably since Oracle 7.

I dunno, I did an oracle implementation back in '99 and never heard the l word once.

I think the thing is everybody's realized you can in fact run redhat and still get "mission-critical" uptimes, so it's not oracle (app vendors don't give a shit what you run it on, it's all the $ame to them), it's the service providers/outsourcing businesses and their customers

and of course very little has actually changed in the last six years or so besides the volume of anecdotes out there supporting linux as a perfectly respectable business decision for a CIO

IMO

Ellison kinda does care, personal vendetta or no.

oracle cares for two reasons 1) they host their apps so they're in the service provider business, and 2) they're not in the os business so if linux support keeps their customers away from vendors with a competing enterprise rdbms (e.g. ms/ibm) all the better

but, yeah there are enough success stories out there that the risk is perceived to be low by trembling cios

I'm not a massive nerd.

thanx for that, pants

beat it kid, the nerdz are talking

richer than you lol

except tom he works for the gubbermint

Le ouch.

um

http://www.clearancejobs.com/security_clearance_jobs_salary_survey3.pdf

Wait why does desktop support require a security clearance?

because the desktops being supported may contain classified information?

why does an FBI cafeteria lady have to take a polygraph?

*plop*

God this is a tough room tonite pls tips in jar by piano.

dude you'd be making so much more in iraq

haw

tax-free too!

however stay-on bonus means you get to keep your arms and legs

RIMSHOT

Well this has been a disappointing thread.

fos, in my analyst work all I ever have to do is log in via putty and dick around with a few unix-CLI specific tools. I suspect the same for the vast majority of the world. if they want a redhat admin they'll advertise for a redhat admin. also remember you are always qualified for the job you want, I thought that was a duh.

the vst player i have my eye on (muse receptor) runs on linux, does using that count as being a linux user?

heh, I chalk up my linux credentials to the one time I had to boot a fedora box up and X11 broke, so I had to go in and diagnose and then edit the config with vi and fire it up manually in order to do something I probably could have accomplished with mv, cp and awk

in other words I think being a linux user means knowing how to solve most problems with the identical end results in at least three different ways

Oh yes, I think that's a problem with /etc/X11/xorg.conf! I know all about 'generic nvidia' Linux drivers too. Hell.

I am feeling pretty okay about this because I can comprehend everything that's being said on this thread. Thanks guys.

Oracle had one of its wet pushes on Linux a few years ago, yeah. It made all this noise about how the impending Red Hat db was rubbish and only Oracle on Oracle Linux was any good etc etc.

Ellison even went through a bizarre phase of clearing everything Microsoft out of the company. That lasted three months. I spent that entire time configuring all the internal apps (mostly Java) to work perfectly on Red Hat 8/9 and received NO FUCKING KUDOS FROM ANYONE.