Boulder the "most liberal city" in Colorado?

Durango is probably more "liberal" than either of them - Oops. I meant Durango, not Crested Butte. I've never been to Crested Butte. Regarding the Telluride/Aspen thing: that's really too bad, though not surprising at all. I haven't been there in over ten years, but at the time it was a comfortable change of pace from the increasingly upscale and homogenized environs of the Vail/Summit County towns. I suppose its co-option was inevitable. I have purposely avoided Aspen, but I'm sure it has changed drastically from the days when Hunter Thompson was elected Sheriff (or very nearly elected - I forget).

Syrah? Petite Sirah? neither is close to CA's most notable grape. - OK, youve got me. I was referring to Petite Sirah, as it is generally pretty expensive, but you are welcome to subsitute that with any California red you feel to be more appropriate.

gbx they cancelled iron horse as silverton had 12" of snow on saturday. i would like to live in durango i think.

boulder, ugh.

I've actually explored very little of CO's mountain towns - must be because I'm from the NoCo prairie. Actually I have no excuse as I've lived in CO for 28 years.

Durango's the most liberal?

i wouldnt think so.

its got a small cottage and lots of outdoor types, but its also got a lot of ranchers and regular semi rural ppl from my experiences there

"college" wtf

yeah, that's what I was thinking, though the county (of which the 'city' is 1/3, apparently) did go Kerry, barely

i forgot that.

san miguel county had the highest kerry at like 75+% as i recall, but thats because it has telluride, sawpit, and not much else. gunnison county where cb is has lots of ranchers etc.

the blue counties in 2004, in descending order of blueness:
San Miguel (Telluride)
Denver
Pitkin (Aspen)
Costilla (San Luis, tiny)
Boulder
Summit (Breckenridge)
Saguache (tiny)
Gunnison (Crested Butte)
Gilpin (Central City)
Routt (Steamboat Springs)
Clear Creek (Georgetown)
Pueblo
Eagle (Vail)
La Plata (Durango)
San Juan (Silverton)
Adams (Aurora-Commerce City)
Las Animas (Trinidad)

the great thing about 'catch and release' is it made the people of boulder seem so horrible that it surely could stop anyone from moving here if, of course, more than 8 people had seen it.

Boulder has really good beer though.

I also liked the Sundown Saloon when I lived there.

The place can get really depressing though. Everyone really is a mountain climbing gearhead with bad taste in music. Also, there is very little grasp of sarcasm in that town. Everyone is just so "sincere" about everything, unless they are some rich college kid.

I lived there in 2004-2005. My landlord, who lived next door, would routinely come by and leave pro-Kerry stuff on our front porch. You'll find that despite the illusion that Boulder is a friendly and accepting town, most of the people are quite rude. I moved there from Virginia, driving an old Jeep Cherokee. I was routinely derided for this, and generally assumed to be a republican.

Everyone really is a mountain climbing gearhead with bad taste in music. Also, there is very little grasp of sarcasm in that town. Everyone is just so "sincere" about everything, unless they are some rich college kid.

siiiiiiigh, yes. 2 more months.

Hey ZS, Albertson's (here, anyway) has a sale: buy 3 boxes of general mills cereal & get a gallon of milk free.

Oh, and it's $5 for the three boxes (plus the free milk).

Whoa, nice!

The odds of me getting there are not so good, though. Technically it's within biking distance from where I'm at, but I wouldn't be able to carry back much more than the 3 boxes of cereal and gallon of milk. Plus the guy I'm staying with appears to be emotionally attached to King Sooper's.

I caught a bunch of shit when I got here about not knowing what King Sooper's was.

I am coming to rescue you!!!

No worries, I'm doing ok for tonight (check yr email)

Although one guy did say "Dude, you can't say ...."currency" and...uh...."fecal matter" at night, those are daytime words. Normally I would understand, but..." after I said something like "but 80% of currency has fecal matter on it anyway, right?" in a conversation tangentially related to how dirty beer pong is (due to the missed throws hitting the table, floor, dirt etc).

ie, fuck you dude we're grownups.

I know no one cares, but I have to say,

There are two dudes I barely know hanging out in my weed stenched living room. They just kind of hang out here. All the time. One of them, on the left, was described to me as "just like Kramer" before I ever met him. He's like Kramer in that he always walks in uninvited and is just kind of...there...he's unlike Kramer in that he's never funny, ever. He's has also told me that he has a crush on a 16-year-old girl and the girl's mother, and that girls are best when they're "on the edge of the range" like that.

The other guy, he seemed pretty good natured the first few times I met him, but now, as he lays all over one of the couches, I realize that I'm almost certain he has had his hand down his gym shorts for like half an hour. Not really scratching or jerking it or whatever, but just down in there. Like Al Bundy but way further down. I don't know what to say anymore. What the fuck is wrong with this town?

like farther than this:

http://robotninjawhores.com/wp-content/2007/04/paris-hilton-bikini-hand.jpg

I think that's technically safe for work, but sorry.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS TOWN?

He's like Kramer in that he always walks in uninvited and is just kind of...there...he's unlike Kramer in that he's never funny, ever.

looool

is boulder just a bunch of crusty hippy "spiritual" types and college kids?

zs maybe you could seek advice from gary during next week's episode of car concerns

I don't know what the hell is going on here. I'm in Boulder, CO living with halfassed stoner (they only smoke spliffs, WTF) college kids - and somehow I'm sitting on a couch arguing with this kid that says China is 50 miles off the coast of Florida, drilling diagonally toward the U.S., drilling our oil. I understand what he's saying, it's a false rumor Cheney helped spread a few days ago, but when I explain what's actually is going on his eyes glaze toward the tv and no one responds. We're all watching some sort of extreme wrestling thing where one fighter is jabbing his elbow into the other guys temple, repeatedly, and they're both covered with blood. Nooooooo

xp Gary's all I got in this goddamned world.

whoa, wtf ZS? Your housing situation sounds fucked. Fuck those people, go take some walks somewhere beautiful; get away from those eyes glazed-over beer pong-playing dudes staring at tv with conspiracy theories dancing around in their heads

lol "just like Kramer" guy

Someone's describing Boulder, all right

That's the thing though, I spend nearly all of my free time either up in the trails in the mountains or at a coffeeshop called the Laughing Goat. But I can't spend ALL of my time away from home. I still have to come back to eat, and then hang out until I'm finally tired enough to go to bed. I can't make enemies of these fools because they're all I've got. If I get antagonistic with them I will literally have no friends. And I don't have a car, so I need someone to take me to get groceries.

Occasionally I come across someone who isn't completely braindead and I want to hold onto their leg and say "Please talk to me. Can we please drink wine and talk about something? Anything?". But I doubt that's socially acceptable.

Ah, well that's cool-- it sounds like you are making some wise use of your time! But I understand what you're saying...

I doubt that's socially acceptable

Yeah, but it's probably worth trying some variation of that! I would. Seriously.

I do hope your roomies are like, "And he didn't even want to watch wrestling, but he drunkenly animated a picture of vaginas in about 15 minutes."

So far, I've adopted the strategy of hoping that someone at the coffeeshop will notice that I am always browsing interesting and hilarious websites, and think I'm cool and talk to me. And that they wouldn't be crazy.

"New lows reached at Boulder coffeeshop - no one notices"

That's another thing. They don't think that stuff like that is funny AT ALL. wtf? My roommate couldn't even watch A.I. because it was "too weird" (and this was waaaay before it got weird at all).

But, but...Jude Law IS Lover Robot!

meet some hot chick from craigslist and spend your nights hanging out at her place

I imagine that would piss my girlfriend off quite a bit!

Everything would possibly be ok if I could just play videogames or something. But no. Playing the DS is "gay", obviously.

HOW CAN WE GET YOU TO DENVER????

i think i need to come to boulder on friday night and save you from beer pong. however, i dont drink wine. is this a problem?

I could take the bus (the BX, I think) from Boulder to Denver, no problem.

We should do that! On Friday, c'mon!

SURE
either/or!
i am going to be up at my parents house on friday afternoon (they live in Greeley) so Boulder is totally on the way back home for me if you don't feel like taking the bus.
OR, I can see how you wanna get outta that place.

i don't think i've ever posted on this board (i'm more of an ILM guy), but i live in Longmont, which is about 20 minutes east of Boulder, and I can't say enough good things about it. I lived in Boulder for close to two years before moving out here and agree with a lot of the problems mentioned on this thread. Longmont -- or at least the neighborhood I'm in -- is quite lovely. Old, affordable homes! An awesome cheese shop! Lots of cool neighbors! Fewer (or, not any) CU students! Those mountains! COME TO LONGMONT.

that said, boulder does have plenty to recommend it -- namely some very good beer.

longmont's beer is lacking for the most part.

Longmont also has that Macdonalds with the choo-choo

And the TWIN PEAKS MALL

yes, the mont is all twin peaksed out. twin peaks church! scary. longmont also has some of the best mexican food i've found in colorado.

^^ no freaking way