rolling “Trump is gonna win” containment thread

After being introduced by Luis Fonsi, Joe Biden pulled out his phone and started playing Despacito ahead of his remarks kicking off Hispanic Heritage Month in Kissimmee, FL. pic.twitter.com/7R6hUZgLW1

— Sarah Mucha (@sarahmucha) September 16, 2020

Putting this here instead of the Biden thread for reasons

Lord help us

My first day on the job as a political consultant. Getting on google and searching “what do latinos want”

— wholesome on main (@InternetHippo) September 16, 2020

someone should hip him to the best taco bowls in Manhattan

A sad truth from Rachel Bitecofer in the article unpeson linked:

the inelasticity of American public opinion is a symptom of a democracy in full-blown crisis. A healthy “body politic” does not remain unresponsive to political stimulus on an epic scale. Ours alone is the only democracy in which the public flatlined in this way.

I think a lot about 9/11 and what if something like that happened under Trump's watch. GWB infamously got up to 92% approval but I doubt Trump's wound even budge up to 50

That’s more about Trump than anything else though. Most of the public is just begging to rally around the flag during these types of national emergencies but he’s fundamentally incapable of even momentarily faking gravitas and empathy in a halfway convincing manner

the public rallied around Bush's massive erection for a year or so. god those were shit times.

The 40% of people who would approve of Trump after another attack like 9/11 would be completely convinced that the Democrats conspired to do it to hurt “us”

a friend of mine had a grandpa who was loudly screaming that Dems planted people in nursing homes so they would die of COVID in large numbers, so u probably right

I don't know ms Bitecofer, but that poll of hers looks good?

Texas a toss-up also.

He is desperate for that Hispanic vote.

bro this is literally a list of countries we've done coups in pic.twitter.com/Wg2hisEYdf

— dadpilled goat (@tamrieldude) September 16, 2020

That interview I linked to is even better than I thought; this is what I'd share with white friends struggling to understand the complexity of the "Hispanic vote."

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Maybe someone should show that interview to Biden's team?

I would think the American press never recovered from their failure to confront the blatant lies that led to genocide in Iraq and Afghanistan

i'm excerpting this from TPM "Prime", where i am co-founder and co-treasurer. but it hits on a lot of recent anxieties, for me at least.

after briefly recounting the recent (insane) stuff from Caputo, the HHS comms chief /trump stooges, he writes:

...Caputo comes to Trump’s world as a longtime associate of Roger Stone. Stone himself is on the air calling on Trump to defy electoral defeat, declare martial law and order the mass arrests of political opponents like the Clintons and Obamas. He justifies this with baseless claims of widespread voter fraud by Democrats. Mark Levin, onetime legal commentator and now full time reactionary, is pushing the President to “use the Insurrection Act” to put down ‘insurrections’ in the country’s big cities. Levin adds that Trump needs to be ready to fire the top brass and appointees at the Pentagon when they resist his order to unleash US military troops on US civilians.

A consistent theme in all these threats and predictions is how the mix of protests, occasional looting and general civil unrest of recent months and the purported need to restore order by force morphs into post election scenarios in which the election must be decided by a resort to arms.

Seeded through all of this are increasingly histrionic and nonsensical claims of murderous violence that Republicans are allegedly responding to. In Caputo’s rant he claims that a “resistance unit” of politicized CDC scientists was plotting to murder him. This is nonsense but nonsense with a concrete purpose – it makes murderous responses sound reasonable, justified, logical.

We should note that the President himself has gotten into this. Over the weekend in an interview with Fox’s Jeanine Pirro, Pirro falsely claimed that Democrats were threatening mass rioting if they lose the election (another bogus claim now repeatedly asserted in the Fox News universe). She asked what the President would do about it.

“We’ll put them down very quickly if they do that. We have the right to do that. We have the power to do that, if we want,” Trump said. “Look, it’s called insurrection. We just send in, and we do it very easy. I mean, it’s very easy. I’d rather not do that because there’s no reason for it, but if we had to, we’d do that and put it down within minutes.”

The comments are often treated by the mainstream press as bizarre digressions by the President or random comments. But you can see from these other statements that they’re not random at all. Pirro’s question and Trump’s answer both emerge out of this drumbeat from Trump’s most aggressive supporters that the election will need to be settled by force and particularly by the President calling out the US military and declaring something like martial law.

Let me be clear as a gut check on this. I don’t think any of this stuff is going to happen. I’m not predicting. I don’t think it’s likely for many different reasons. But when we are talking about looking back in six months, we should be very aware now that the President’s most aggressive and potentially violent supporters – in interplay with the President himself – are already laying the argumentative groundwork for such an outcome – a series of justifications, an argument that the opposition started it and made it necessary, a series of purportedly legal mechanisms for what amounts to a post-election putsch against the government itself.

i guess when your daily tv diet is tucker carlson and hannity, levin seems like just another pro-trump option. but that guy is fucking insane, and it is creepy as hell to hear Trump say “Look, it’s called insurrection. We just send in, and we do it very easy. I mean, it’s very easy. I’d rather not do that because there’s no reason for it, but if we had to, we’d do that and put it down within minutes", knowing that he's just echoing levin

the similarity of his voice to Master Shake makes it hard for me to parse how nakedly evil he actually is

Ngl, if Trump wins by any kind of shady means, I think mass rioting is entirely justified.

right, they've been laying the groundwork to refuse to accept an election they lose, while simultaneously warning that the other side's going to refuse to accept an election they win. it's like they're just dumping buckets of shit on their own heads while saying "it really would be un-American to hold your nose right now"

everyone cautioning against radical action under the guise of "we can't become the monsters they say we are" needs to take a long hard look at the massive amounts of mailers in which Joe Biden is positioned right next to scary pictures of Bernie Sanders and AOC

This pandemic related?

This Time Magazine report on Biden's lack of any ground operation in MICHIGAN is just insane.

Read --> https://t.co/JzgtDQcz8w pic.twitter.com/fRoqGAnDB8

— Andrew Clark (@AndrewHClark) September 16, 2020

not good, yes...
surprising or insane, not really

At a Zoom meeting for Cubans for Biden last week, I asked about door-to-door operations in Florida. The campaign guy said no with a finality I didn't expect. "We're not risking people's lives," he said.

I think a lot about 9/11 and what if something like that happened under Trump's watch

I'm sorry to say that in my head every single one of his attempts at solemnity in this scenario are extremely funny

“We’ll put them down very quickly if they do that. We have the right to do that. We have the power to do that, if we want,” Trump said. “Look, it’s called insurrection. We just send in, and we do it very easy. I mean, it’s very easy. I’d rather not do that because there’s no reason for it, but if we had to, we’d do that and put it down within minutes.”

Trump could be talking about curing covid, trade with China, war with Iran ... basically for him fixing any problem is "very easy," and can be done "very quickly." If you have a bunch of hammers, and those hammers are nuclear weapons, and you are a moron that doesn't know how things work, then everything is a nail that you can just nuke and be done with.

xp there are two 9/11s per week now, in terms of covid deaths, and we see how he responded

He invaded Covidistan?

At a Zoom meeting for Cubans for Biden last week, I asked about door-to-door operations in Florida. The campaign guy said no with a finality I didn't expect. "We're not risking people's lives," he said.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, September 17, 2020 7:47 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah, the Biden campaign hasn't been doing any door-to-door operations, though I wouldn't think that would necessarily obviate the need for field offices. There's a lot of virtual campaigning going on, though--for instance, Pod Save America has an "Adopt a State" program, where you can sign up to make phone calls to voters in battleground states.

Cameron giving it the side-eye

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/17/david-cameron-signals-that-he-wants-joe-biden-to-beat-trump

idk if we should be reading too much into "insufficient field operations" when there's a literal pandemic raging. people won't even interact with the pizza delivery guy!!

Yeah, I mean, who knows, but handling the pandemic responsibly is one of the few things Biden has going for him, and also a trap. The second he appears without a mask, gotcha, see, he does it too! And so on.

If the pandemic is so dangerous, then why is he sending people door-to-door!? Is his campaign trying to spread the virus and kill people?

they are willing to fight, indeed, to die for comrade combover ~

https://www.tampabay.com/life-culture/2020/09/17/does-donald-trump-own-the-ocean/

“For me, it’s more like Trump risked his entire life to stand up for the country,” said Feeley, a contractor. “He didn’t need money. ... He didn’t need fame.” He did not think the flags would have caught on like this for another Republican candidate. What if Trump loses? “I’m still flying it. And I’m heading to the White House with the militia.”

There it is.

Terry, lounging in his Pabst Blue Ribbon swim trunks, said repeatedly his flag is not so much about “loving Trump,” the man, specifically. He talked instead about wanting to signal the things he’s against, laying out grievances with Black Lives Matter, the media and liberal “movements.”

...

Nearby, another couple lazed in the warm, waist deep water and talked about only flying their Trump boat flag when certain family members are around — just to annoy them.

my Mom works as a contact tracer and she says one of the reasons why the death numbers are so wonky day to day is that a lot of families are fighting to take COVID off the death certificate. wonder why that might be...

it would have no legal standing whatsoever, but i highly support any effort to repeatedly sue trump for the negligent deaths of 200K people, after he's out of office. he should have to set aside about $50M a year in legal fees until he dies, to fight it. so keep covid on yr death certificates, future class-action suit losers

DURHAM REPORT!!!

https://threader.app/thread/1307075233703133184

caps are serious. the more caps you use the seriouser it is.

#TOTALEXONERATION!!!!

We found the one person paying attention to Eric Garland in 2020.

milo...are you ready for some game theory? buckle up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXGG-8aGXqo

he has the supreme court, the senate, the attorney general, and the russian intelligence service . . . but he doesn't have covid. after bannon was arrested, parscale was arrested, his taxes went public, and he melted down at the debate, recordings of melania saying "fuck christmas" was the final straw. he knows he has the election in the bag (because of all the aforesaid) so why bother going through the motions of campaigning anymore? hey guys, i have the covid, see you in november . . . when after a steady diet of hydroxy i emerge unscathed from covid . . . and order ya'll back to drink hydroxy ($1000 a bottle) and get back to work . . . and if you die, it is what it is -- you don't deserve to live! herd immunity!!

what

lol

qualms has been blootered since the tax paperwork leaked

I'll have what qualmsley is having

Adjusting my position:

Biden will win popular election, but malarkey means that DJT will remain in office past January.

Posting this now so that I can quote myself later.

you obviously haven't heard Biden's stance on malarkey

I don’t think Trump would win a fair election at this point but voter suppression and court fights fucking Biden in Pennsylvania is hauntingly plausible