2008 Primaries Thread

CAN WE NOT MERGE THE TWO THREADS KTHNKXBYE

^^^ good idea

''Rolling Indie Thread 2008''

-- Keep it in here, boys.

I've posted on the VW thread all of twice, I think

I wasn't zinging you! I was explaining why I was here and why my VW thread contributions were essentially three posts worth of "They're from New York, the end."

They're from NY? I thought they were from Cape Cod. Cod Rock.

I probably shouldn't have said anything, this is going way off-track.

YEAH, WHY DID YOU SAY THAT?

(j/k)

A question: I keep seeing doubt expressed at Obama's ability to take Ohio. Is there any legitimate reason why, at this point, Obama should have difficulty taking Ohio? I don't know the specifics of the Clinton/Obama's campaigns in that state, but judging by the precedents set by other states, the demographics seem to be in his favor.

HRC is very well mobilized in Ohio (big comittment of resources).

after he racks up victories in the next few weeks clinton will proclaim she' broke and cry about it.

my gut feeling is that OH will be right-down-the-middle like Missouri and either one could grab it

so guys.

did you hear about mitt romney.

RIP ;_;

Great timing on Dobson's part

Plus it's part of HRC's new ''big state'' strategy. She'll likely lose a lot between now and the Ohio/Tx primaries, and she's focused on (re)gaining momentum by winning those two big states.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFSVG7jRp_g

^^^^

You think it will matter, Ned (either now or in November)?

her strategy doesn't make sense to me because this is a "delegate race" now, and if obama wins 7 primaries/caucuses in a row (with VERY decisive victories like he's been doing) he'll have an even bigger delegate lead, and tons of momentum.. so once they get to Texas and Ohio he will either : 1. win 2. come within a few percentage points and get half of the delegates anyway... right?!?

Yeah, that's how it seems to me, although I doubt he'll get decisive victories in all 7 states. WA, at least, seems pretty split.

Her strategy sounds loosely modeled on Giuliani's "Florida gambit," which may not be a good sign. Unlike him, tho, she'll campaign, pour resources into the other states, and make them contests. Put differently, she won't allow herself to slip from the public conciousness.

You think it will matter, Ned (either now or in November)?

I just think it's a bit goofy.

click that youtube for obama talking about how he likes that new 'american gangster' album

and plz to contrast w/ sista soulja clinton

I just think it's a bit goofy.

It's all Dobson has left this election cycle, short of (a) extracting massive concessions from McCain now (before he's locked up the nomination, but even that's a stretch, given that McCain has no serious challengers anymore), (b) supporting the Democratic nominee in the GE or (c) backing a third-party candidate.

Now it's funny you should mention third-party -- the Anchoress seems to be the only person on the right who is pursuing the whole 'suspend' theme to a...well, not necessarily logical conclusion, but an intriguing one. I'd been idly wondering about that myself.

deej what does dude say, can't watch it at work

he also likes The Wire, his fave character is Omar.

he says a nuanced bit about how he likes hip-hop but disagrees w/ some of the messages, nothing overwhelming except when u think about how he could be president

If there's a third-party run, I'm wondering where it will come from: Anti-immigrant sentiment, evangelical supporters (or a combo of the two). Ron Paul won't work, tho he may run as a third party. I'm not sure prominent evangelical leaders want to get behind a losing GE effort, unless the strategy is explicitly to deny McCain the Presidency.

As I've said elsewhere on this thread, tho, I know at least one prominent evangelical leader in Florida, who assures me that he'll support -- and even campaign for -- McCain in November (even tho McCain is hardly his first choice for the GOP nomination).

(xp)

yeah the vibe cover story to that effect back in oct was pretty interesting.

i saved that shit and plan to keep it like my dad kept moon landing headlines & shit.

um, there is a third party candidate.

http://visibility911.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/cynthiamckinney.jpg

Green Party, bitches.

She seems so happy.

If there's a third-party run, I'm wondering where it will come from

http://us.history.wisc.edu/hist102/photos/assets/photos/1118.jpg

BRING IT ON, OLD MAN!

she is very emotive:

http://www.911truth.org/osamas/mckinney.jpg

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/8881/mckinneymar31cweb5hd.jpg

http://www.aolcdn.com/channels/0f/05/44d2755a-00077-06fe3-400cb8e1

she looks very presidential in the last pic IMO.

LOL. She has crazy, bugged-out eyes.

I LOVE HER.

she is very pretty.

that's cynthia mckinney, right? i like her.

that shit last year where they were running the terrible mugshot of her over and over to play up the LOL CRAZY BLACK LADY angle really pissed me off.

Give this a run, y'all. I tied between Hillary and Barack

Canditate Quiz

I got Obama:

Barack Obama
Score: 54
Video Agree
Immigration
Taxes
Stem-Cell Research
Health Care
Abortion
Line-Item Veto
Energy
Marriage
Gun Control
Education

Disagree
Iraq
Social Security
Death Penalty
Environment

MIKE GRAVEL!??

MIKE GRAVEL!??

Oy, vey. Anyway, it's

Mike Gravel
Obama
HRC
Ron Paul
Mitt Romney
John McCain (way in back, he must be a conservative)
Mike Huckabee

Hmmm. . .

I got Gravel too. I keep forgetting that Hil and Obama are both for "merit pay" for teachers, ugh.

I also wish there were better Iraq options. But what can you do?

ILX'ors for MIKE GRAVEL.

if only you could choose a candidate based on their current positions on issues which all happened to be weighted equally. lol.

My top 2:

Hillary Clinton
Score: 39

Barack Obama
Score: 39

and yeah, fuck merit pay

why, i think it's a good idea.