love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

lol

I am terribly torn on Ed Mili always (v Gemini, that) because on the one hand he was weak as shit as a leader and controls on immigration/cop shit/all the stuff we went through in 2015 and on the other, when he’s being himself and hammering right he’s very good at it. Also, he beat his cunt of a brotherand people who do scathing well are automatically 100000% more attractive to me.

Alphie, I beg you, I’ve tapped the damn sign so much I’ve worn holes in it.

What are you are supposed to be non judgemental about bad politicians and their shitty legacies, imago? You might be but I'm not that easily impressed by them and it'll take more than some pantomime gotcha clip in parliament to impress me pal!

Just remembered the Sunday Times poll in 2015 that asked whether Ed Miliband ‘looked prime ministerial’, which was not a dogwhistle to such an extend that they had to rouse Danny Finkelstein from beneath his ermine bedspread to explain exactly how much of a dogwhistle it wasn’t.

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) September 14, 2020

Also also, Boris still looks awful, which is why I entirely believe the rumour about him parachuting out early next year.

When Ed did that Russel Brand interview I've never felt such profound embarrassment for a Labour leader I was going to vote for, he had all the gravitas and authority of a slightly overconfident 18 year old student at a freshers ball.

Gonna make up for some cop lovin' by shooting fish in the commons barrel in the evening, even if nobody is going to care by next week.

Also also, Boris still looks awful, which is why I entirely believe the rumour about him parachuting out early next year.

― scampo italiano (gyac), Monday, 14 September 2020 bookmarkflaglink

How many times did you see people speculating on whether Trump would resign when he got the presidency?

Not sure people were speculating on his physical health, though?

People told themselves he didn't really want the job.

The speculation on his mental health got going a bit later.

People have been speculating on trump’s physical health for 5 years lol

Speculation on mental health is dirty idiotic bullshit, the kind of thing a valueless Tory cunt might do

Pretty sure Johnson was thinking "fuck it, it's only Ed Miliband".

Yeah it was grim xp

It's weird because there is a truth and a horrible lie in the same thoughts

Yeah here we are, the history of divide and conquer writ large

And also here we are the history of grown ups Tweeting the terrible middle class libs that are marginally less centred than they are because poverty tastes better with an accent

speaking of negligent employers

By advising employers not to necessarily report Covid-19 cases and deaths, despite the legal requirement, the Government is turning a blind eye to the impact this virus is having on workers. https://t.co/we9Qi5kIuy

— Andy McDonald MP (@AndyMcDonaldMP) September 14, 2020

This guy.

I doubt it makes difference beyond SW1, but I imagine there will be a few Tory MPs made uncomfortable by sight of Ed M, a man whose credentials to be PM they derided, looking and sounding so much more capable in a serious brief than the incarnate shambles they chose as leader.

— Rafael Behr (@rafaelbehr) September 14, 2020

Lol.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/14/rebel-alliance-the-tory-politicians-opposing-new-brexit-bill

Today’s labour market data (with data covering up to August) showed that the recovery in GDP this summer is not reflected in the jobs data. Headline unemployment rose sharply in July (up 0.6 ppts), and RTI employment continued to fall, while the recovery in vacancies has slowed.

— Resolution Foundation (@resfoundation) September 15, 2020

Apologies for drunky incomprehensibility last night and apologies for not leaping to EMil's defence at 5 to 7 in the evening in the middle of a Wolves match in the pub.

Tbh I think the hated tankies of UK Pol have always been gently tolerant of Ed except when he's printing racist coffee mugs or advocating being a snitch

I hate "the economy" because it's just shorthand for the interests of the exploited class but on the other hand the economy's really fucked lads, there's gonna be unmanageable millions unemployed by next summer

"exploiter class" fuck you Tory spellcheck

We were also watching the Wolves match, fears the little cat is a Wolves fan, remains to be seen, alas. Tbftlj, I think he might have a bit more to worry about atm than defending Ed’s honour.

People told themselves he didn't really want the job.

He doesn't, btw.

But speculation ob Boris leaving itt is fundamentally different from US folks speculating on Trump leaving because no one here is under the illusion that what would replace Boris would be any better.

Yeah I'm still a bit pished probably half price Tanqueray ffs we've always been pretty gentle on Ed tho, the reluctant melt

"People told themselves he didn't really want the job.

He doesn't, btw."

And yet..

I always hear what a nice guy Ed iszzz...anyone who serves or aligns themselves with the right-wing faction of the PLP is a cunt, end of story!

Yeah Alphie, it doesn't influence anything, it's just an interesting psychological quirk.

Between the Tory rebel alliance and the democratic avengers it’s really refreshing to finally have some adults in the room

Just need eu super girl and hufflepuffs4eugenics to get in on the act and grown up politics is back baby

"But speculation ob Boris leaving itt is fundamentally different from US folks speculating on Trump leaving because no one here is under the illusion that what would replace Boris would be any better."

I recall seeing ppl groaning at Mike Pence as president. Some people were like, if not Pence who?

I think the differences lie in Johnson actually having had covid. However a lot of the ppl making this speculation don't want to admit how bad things could get, that one trick -- Johnson's removal somehow -- could throw off the Tories from their plans for their precious liberal democracy.

xp

Specifically limited my post to "itt" for these reasons :)

Sorry, yes.

Just need eu super girl and hufflepuffs4eugenics to get in on the act and grown up politics is back baby

speaking of which, guess who's baaaaaack

Excited to begin my new role: Director of Partners for a New Economy.

Our broken economic system needs to change, to make it serve people and our planet. Looking forward to working with brilliant people and organisations on this mission. https://t.co/KCegBD5FvE #BuildBackBetter pic.twitter.com/fBcuyJ8vnk

— Jo Swinson (@joswinson) September 14, 2020

i encourage each and every one of you to look at this organisation's website and tell me one actual deliverable plan they have to stop us all burning or boiling alive

also, if i was writing a satirical dystopian novel about how finance is actively enabling the strangling of the planet under the guise of woke capitalism i'd think calling a green finance organisation 'PANE' was a bit on-the-nose

What's their policy on squirrels?

There's a Persil advert at the moment hectoring you to save the planet lol how I haven't destroyed my TV yet god only knows

*piece of paper flutters off, revealing the last word is actually "Europe"*

"one actual deliverable plan they have to stop us all burning or boiling alive" is a high bar, in fairness.

The real pisser is I thought it had become indisputable amongst the membership that Ed was on the wrong side of the argument on austerity in 2015 and yet all the signs are Starmer is directing the party in a fiscally conservative direction and perhaps doing the same thing again might have a different result this time, but it doesn't make it right. And all these people with short memories having a jizz-fest cos he mugged off Boris in a one-off punch and Judy show. I just despair.

Some people just like politicians I guess. I can't stand about 95% of them.

"one actual deliverable plan they have to stop us all burning or boiling alive" is a high bar, in fairness.

well, yeah

seems kinda telling that their definition of 'new economy' seems to be about getting rich people to spend their wealth in slightly different places and somehow that will avert the end of the world

We are so doomed I can't think about it too much I'm sorry kids

I have always liked Ed Miliband.

I saw him in March 2015 at an event in Bermondsey and was amazed at how good he was.

Things would be much better if he had become PM.

I was glad to see him doing well again last night.

I once saw him sing 'Waterloo' at a karaoke event. He sang very badly - no sense of being in tune at all.

I’ve just seen that Micko Westmoreland (aka Jack Fairy in Velvet Goldmine) used to give Ed Miliband guitar lessons.

I voted for him in 2015 and was howling at the moon on election night. But I still doubt we'd be in that much of a better place had he won.

FBPEers wouldn't exist so that would be something

I don't think he sided with the right of the party, more he was unable to avoid being dominated by them, same result obviously.

FBPEers would still be there and still be full of shit though and might just have bloomed a bit later into their post 2016 form!

There might still have been EU referendum pressure from an opposition Tory party and if they were tanking in the polls with UKip riding high, brexit still might have happened.

With a unpopular Labour in power and the same fucking clowns running the Remain campaign. LEAVE might have won by a bigger margin!

they would have been a popular Labour government going around the red wall dropping huge monoliths on the immigrants