video footage of tyrone hill as bandleader on the TV show "barbeque with bobby seale"
― budo jeru, Sunday, 13 September 2020 09:46 (three years ago) link
I feel like this happens more and more. Really basic stuff that I'm positive some nerdling enthusiast out there has written a loving set of linked pages about in, like, 2004, but which the search engines of 2020 cannot find.
How did people train dogs in the early modern period, or the middle ages? In fact, at any time before WWI? No idea. I can't find it.
There's tons of this kind of thing. I feel like the web used to be MORE searchable/available/transparent somehow.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 September 2020 12:04 (three years ago) link
The transformation of search engines to commercial money machines has a lot to do with it. Google and the likes are so utterly useless nowadays, it's criminal. They don't search for you any more, they throw up links/adds/sponsored content the algorithm thinks you want/need when in fact you don't. Is there one search engine still that actually does what it should be doing?
― Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 21 September 2020 12:26 (three years ago) link
yeah i've complained about this like six times on threads like this one. even sticking words in quotation marks doesn't always work any more. remember when finding a link in Google meant that the word you searched for was actually on that page and not merely imagined by Google? ughghhhhhhhh.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 21 September 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link
yeah i get pretty infuriated when i search a term and get a list of irrelevant google results that dont include one of the key words, and google generously gives me the option to search again with results that "must include [key word in the term is was searching]". Like yeah, no shit google, I want my search to include that word, thats why i fuckin typed it ya dingus
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 21 September 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link
Google search is an absolute shitshow
― rip van wanko, Monday, 21 September 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link
You can even turn off ads in DDG, I see no reason not to have that as your default search engine
― rip van wanko, Monday, 21 September 2020 14:25 (three years ago) link
yeah i get pretty infuriated when i search a term and get a list of irrelevant google results that dont include one of the key words
― Alba, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 01:40 (three years ago) link
I use DDG as my default, but if I'm trying to find something a bit trickier to pin down, google is almost always better. As Alba suggests, I think more than anything it's a "too much irrelevant and useless shit on the internet" problem.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 02:24 (three years ago) link
speaking of pinning things down, Google returns an astounding number of useless Pinterest pages for many, many of my searches.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 08:08 (three years ago) link
-site:pinterest.com to exclude that shotFor some searches overwhelmed by guff, I sometimes throw reddit into the search terms to at least nudge it towards text written by a human.
― Alba, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 08:27 (three years ago) link
To be fair to google, a shitload of information that was around in 2004 will no longer be there. Geocities, myspace, other defunct blogging platforms, unrenewed personal domains and sites. The barrier to publishing on the internet is low, but it's not well designed for data persistence.
― neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 08:38 (three years ago) link
Yeah Alba I do that, but surely 'the best search engine in the world' shouldn't require a lot of nerdy operators in the search in order to return high-quality results. Most of Pinterest is search spam as far as I can tell. A few relevant-ish images pinned to the top of a page and then thousands of referral links for the rest of it. Come to think of it, that's what most pages on the internet are now, though.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 09:08 (three years ago) link
many former google SEO employees now work elsewhere, one of the reasons why Pinterest is seeded so high in their searches as they know how the algo is gamed.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 11:10 (three years ago) link
yeah they're a sharp bunch
― kinder, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 11:32 (three years ago) link
"gulbashu" wayward leftfield laotian hip-hop used to be on youtube, odd video of grotesque floating cgi heads, google returns zero results
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link
I want to use this recording of Marcus Garvey from 1929 in my 1929 mix.Only is it him? Is it from 1929? The original (very dubious) source (a badly labelled youtube video) is gone from the internet, the account deleted.I can find no record of a recording from 1929 at all, but when I google these do seem to be his words.
https://vocaroo.com/1eqvZzf2Hp7J
Can anyone help?
― 好 now 烧烤 (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 25 September 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link
The recording quality is too good, maybe? And can I hear organ in the background towards the end?
― 好 now 烧烤 (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 25 September 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link
I think it might be Marcus Garvey JR.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJd7K_yVKog
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 September 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link
so, the chorus of this song, where they go "merry Christmas, he gunned his family down....." -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP2YV8OfAWs
the sing-songy melody is the same melody I used to hear during those stupid birthday songs at restaurants - "happy happy birthday/from the Chili's crew", etc. but like...I sincerely doubt that's where Macabre got it from, esp not for a Christmas song.
so am trying to figure out where that melody originated from, and failing big time. did it really originate as an alternative birthday song melody or did (as I suspect) a buncha chains ripoff another public domain melody and I just can't figure out what the fuck it is?
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Sunday, 27 September 2020 03:45 (three years ago) link
wait. are you absolutely sure there is a melody in there?
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 27 September 2020 03:50 (three years ago) link
lol briefly, yes, in between the shrieks
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Sunday, 27 September 2020 03:50 (three years ago) link
also i was excited that i had answer :((((((((((
geir up in here
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 27 September 2020 03:59 (three years ago) link
lol
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Sunday, 27 September 2020 03:59 (three years ago) link
it's right on the the tip of my tongue though...I feel like I recognize it from a kids' song along the lines of "On Top Of Spaghetti"...the last part I'm hearing with the set-up lyric "And this is what he said—"
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 27 September 2020 04:07 (three years ago) link
like a silly growing-litany song
This is almost certainly not it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYgOlqinH7A
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 27 September 2020 04:14 (three years ago) link
What I’m thinking of is one of those songs the joke of which is the repetition of that short, insidious melody...like it keeps implying a resolution but just goes over and over like that with wackier developments in each verse
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 27 September 2020 04:22 (three years ago) link
Hadrian, I know this one from a cassette called Wee Sing Silly Songs, where it's a song about a guy with long whiskers:Oh, they're always in the wayThe cows eat them for hayThey hide the dirt on Daddy's shirt,They're always in the way... but I think it's also used, yeah, for schoolyard rhymes where just when it seems like it would be about to turn into a swear, the next word opens up a new stanza....
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 27 September 2020 04:26 (three years ago) link
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Susie#:~:text=%22Miss%20Susie%20had%20a%20steamboat,an%20innocuous%20word%20or%20phrase.
That’s it!!!
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 27 September 2020 04:28 (three years ago) link
:D
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 27 September 2020 04:28 (three years ago) link
aaarrgh but it’s not though! I just listened again to Neanderthal’s song...but it’s exactly in that neighborhood
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 27 September 2020 04:31 (three years ago) link
isn't it just "99 bottles of beer" ?
― budo jeru, Sunday, 27 September 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link
Similar but rhythmically different.
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:12 (three years ago) link
to me sounds like a melodically flattened variant of 'The Noble Duke of York':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzV5zDnK3G4
― (peech) or (buht ih-moh-jee) (unregistered), Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:51 (three years ago) link
*it sounds
― (peech) or (buht ih-moh-jee) (unregistered), Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link
Wow it does!
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Sunday, 27 September 2020 22:52 (three years ago) link
That's not the "proper" tune to the Grand Old Duke Of York though ... sounds like it's been given the same treatment as Neanderthal's original tune! sounds most similar to 99 bottles of beer to me, rhythm differences notwithstanding.
― kinder, Monday, 28 September 2020 08:30 (three years ago) link
i think it matches one of the several tunes of "i had a little turtle" actually
― kinder, Monday, 28 September 2020 08:33 (three years ago) link
https://youtu.be/FedGgBn9giM
― kinder, Monday, 28 September 2020 08:34 (three years ago) link
... which is described as the same as "miss Lucy had a baby" or the susie steamboat one... as you were.
― kinder, Monday, 28 September 2020 08:37 (three years ago) link
the johnsons had a babyhis name was tiny timthey put him in the bathtubto see if he could swimhe drank up all the waterhe ate up all the soapand now the johnson baby'slearnin the belly-floathe floated down the riverhe floated down the lakeand now the johnson baby'sgot a belly achei woke up sunday mornini looked upon the wallthe spiders and the bedbugswere havin a game of ballthe score was 1 to nothinthe spiders were aheadthe bedbugs hit a home runand knocked me out of bed
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 28 September 2020 09:06 (three years ago) link
a lot of these mentioned so far are more like chants than melodies, or what sometimes gets called 'sing-song'
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 28 September 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link
I mean, they all have as much melody as the "merry Christmas, he gunned his family down" thing we're trying to match, right?
I think it's true that they all share a certain DNA with "99 Bottles of Beer." None of them are quite the same "tune" or the same rhythm, but if your band was playing "99 Bottles," and everybody but the bassist switched to "Father's Whiskers," "Miss Susie," "Noble Duke of York," or the "Holidays of Horror" refrain, the bassist wouldn't have to change a thing.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 28 September 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link
ha, the Wee Sing Silly Songs cassette I grew up with actually introduces "Father's Whiskers" by asking "Do you know the tune, '99 Bottles of Pop'?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbE1BdBixLk
@ 9:42
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 28 September 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link
This is reminding me of Tuomas
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link
Call for assistance that can probably only be answered by UK ilxors of a certain age. I have very vague memories of a spoof of Whitney's massively overblown 1988 Olympic anthem "One Moment In Time" which had lyrics, of course, about performance enhancing drugs. The chorus was something like "one shot up the bum", and was possibly on a Christmas special by someone my parents were likely to watch (so Hale & Pace, French & Saunders, Lenny Henry etc, rather than Russ Abbott or Little & Large). Should be easy to find, right?
― thomasintrouble, Monday, 12 October 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link
I don't know it, I've tried my google-fu but it has failed :(
― kinder, Monday, 12 October 2020 23:00 (three years ago) link