POLL: Proposed FP Threshold Changes

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14 days has won the aggregate poll anyway tbf

imago, Friday, 11 September 2020 09:42 (three years ago) link

Which of these was which again? It's difficult to check now the results are in.


FPing anyone still referring to poll options by number like they don’t know the order changes when results are in

Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Friday, 11 September 2020 09:51 (three years ago) link

comrade gyac is an unreliable narrator 😱

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 September 2020 09:56 (three years ago) link

xp tbf I didn’t know this, I use Zing so I don’t check polls on there that often

scampo italiano (gyac), Friday, 11 September 2020 10:06 (three years ago) link

focusing on posters we know by name, and why they've left misses the big picture imo. to me it feels like common sense that if you let rampaging aggression and clusterfuck-fueling go on and on unchecked until MAYbe the person gets a timeout (through an arcane system that is not particularly visible to the casual visitor, and which in practice requires dozens of people to file complaints over months), is going to discourage tons of people from becoming posters we know by name!

i've said this before, but if we were designing ilx from the ground up and thinking "what functional and design choices would i make to make this space feel like a safe haven for civil and fun discussion, and an appealing one to newcomers," i think there's a ton of small things we would do differently. i don't mean giving the site a makeover to look more hip or otherwise lose what's special about it --- i mean stuff like, linking at the top to an faq that spells out what this place is, what kind of behavior isn't tolerated, what "flag post" does... like even at the level of a decent Usenet group FAQ circa 1993 explaining that flamewars are frowned upon etc. or like, when threads are rightfully locked for being awful and offensive, we shd probably note this at the top and in the title so a new visitor doesn't have to get to the bottom to go "oh whew, this IS or has at least BECOME the kind of place where this awfulness isn't wanted" etc...

those are just a couple of examples but i just mean, elsewhere on the internet people are actively trying to create non-toxic spaces where people feel safe, and i appreciate any efforts by the mods to do that work. we're very far from the worst space out there, obviously, but does that mean the work is done? why are the numbers here still so heavily weighted towards cis white dudes age 35 and up, when going on the internet to be nerdy about music and everything has gotten a million times more diverse in the lifetime of this site?

Doctor Casino, Friday, 11 September 2020 12:13 (three years ago) link

p.s. i recognize that i probably sound like the obnoxious uber-radical dude in every org that derails all meetings by wanting to spend another hour designing the perfect, fool-proof bylaws that will prevent capture by centrists or w/e, but IRL i hate that guy!! i just think we can love ilx and also believe that it doesn't have to be the way it's been.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 11 September 2020 12:39 (three years ago) link

Doctor C, I went on the same mental odyssey. Public policy is a rabbit hole

irn-scamp (mh), Friday, 11 September 2020 13:10 (three years ago) link


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