POLL: Proposed FP Threshold Changes

sorry but shouldn't this be on I Love Boat Propulsion

― life is beauitul (rip van wanko), Wednesday, September 2, 2020 12:38 AM

this was a quite humorous post, at which I lolled

I’ve self-deprecatingly mentioned that a lot of people have left because they’ve achieved success in their careers/marriages/child rearing and don’t need a social outlet to talk about which album by The Cure is most underrated. Shame on them

tbh, there are nearly as many reasons to wander away as there are people who have wandered away. I know a few mentioned they didn’t really care who posters were unless they’d met them irl, and couldn’t really tell people apart. Have a few bad interactions with someone who does notice those things and you go back to tweeting takes on movies/music instead

I enjoy the conversational, linear nature of ilx. deciphering of x-posts aside, it’s a format that’s not well-served in a very thread-heavy or upvoted Q&A web these days

I can't really tell all of you apart and haven't ever met anybody from here in real life... I've only formed rudimentary images of you all in my mind, but that's enough, I love you all

I’m not leaving, Dan, I was referring to a
hiatus in the past.

This is actually my fault, I think (can mods check?) I clicked to view the results and accidentally whacked vote on option 5 (no change), instead of option 4, as I mentioned upthread.

Which of these was which again? It's difficult to check now the results are in.

comrade gyac is another 7 dayer 😍

Sorry, it was option 3, 20 fps = 14 day ban, 50 fps = 30 day ban

14 days has won the aggregate poll anyway tbf

Which of these was which again? It's difficult to check now the results are in.

comrade gyac is an unreliable narrator 😱

xp tbf I didn’t know this, I use Zing so I don’t check polls on there that often

focusing on posters we know by name, and why they've left misses the big picture imo. to me it feels like common sense that if you let rampaging aggression and clusterfuck-fueling go on and on unchecked until MAYbe the person gets a timeout (through an arcane system that is not particularly visible to the casual visitor, and which in practice requires dozens of people to file complaints over months), is going to discourage tons of people from becoming posters we know by name!

i've said this before, but if we were designing ilx from the ground up and thinking "what functional and design choices would i make to make this space feel like a safe haven for civil and fun discussion, and an appealing one to newcomers," i think there's a ton of small things we would do differently. i don't mean giving the site a makeover to look more hip or otherwise lose what's special about it --- i mean stuff like, linking at the top to an faq that spells out what this place is, what kind of behavior isn't tolerated, what "flag post" does... like even at the level of a decent Usenet group FAQ circa 1993 explaining that flamewars are frowned upon etc. or like, when threads are rightfully locked for being awful and offensive, we shd probably note this at the top and in the title so a new visitor doesn't have to get to the bottom to go "oh whew, this IS or has at least BECOME the kind of place where this awfulness isn't wanted" etc...

those are just a couple of examples but i just mean, elsewhere on the internet people are actively trying to create non-toxic spaces where people feel safe, and i appreciate any efforts by the mods to do that work. we're very far from the worst space out there, obviously, but does that mean the work is done? why are the numbers here still so heavily weighted towards cis white dudes age 35 and up, when going on the internet to be nerdy about music and everything has gotten a million times more diverse in the lifetime of this site?

p.s. i recognize that i probably sound like the obnoxious uber-radical dude in every org that derails all meetings by wanting to spend another hour designing the perfect, fool-proof bylaws that will prevent capture by centrists or w/e, but IRL i hate that guy!! i just think we can love ilx and also believe that it doesn't have to be the way it's been.

Doctor C, I went on the same mental odyssey. Public policy is a rabbit hole