Steve Reich : Music for 18 musicians (question)

Tell it to a homeschooled composer I know named Mozart.

Eh, it's true enough insofar as there is a cost to any education program and financially uncertain life choice but I don't think it requires 1% level privilege and have not heard of any evidence that people involved with new music composition are more politically conservative on average than the general population. (My anecdotal experience, since that seems to be what we're working with here, is on the contrary.)

xp cf Schoenberg

I love how these threads systematically bring out all the canonical, downright snooty clichés about art music. Not that it didn't have it coming, but still.

*notated art music

I mean, I really don't think most people in 'this world' grew up as wealthy or well-connected as Taylor Swift or Lana del Rey.

If it was just posh people that had pianos in the home the history of bebop would have likely been a whole lot duller perhaps? Just saying like.

yeah we have ridden this ride before, I feel

i generally don't try anymore

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'Still D.R.E.' prominently features the piano as a conspicuous sign of wealth iirc.

I don't think it requires 1% level privilege and have not heard of any evidence that people involved with new music composition are more politically conservative on average than the general population. (My anecdotal experience, since that seems to be what we're working with here, is on the contrary.)

Considering these composers come from a variety of different countries with diverse economic systems, it's not easy to generalize. Coming from America, most of the new music composers I am familiar with do come from privileged backgrounds. They are mostly cis white men. Most of them are baby boomers or older. Compared to other cis white baby boomer men, they tend to be more politically progressive. However, considering this type of music is highly connected to academia and avant-garde arts, which tend to be way more politically to the left than average, these nice liberal white men are conservative by comparison.

In other words a reet bunch of melts, lol

As an American, I am not clear on what a "melt" is -- but you probably are otm

Cancel pianos.

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I haven't attended a concert by him since. Happy to keep things at a distance as I can't be arsed paying money to see good music played by bigots lol.

lol all concerts have been cancelled for the past 6 months here and nothing is scheduled for the next 6 months at least so ...

Xp

I hope that isn't Howard Riley you are talking about, he's the only avant garde jazz pianist hero we have from Hudds!

Nope he isn't from the jazz scene.

Sarah - encountered his awful twitter about two years ago. Probably started going to his recitals ten years ago.

wait who? i am confused. Rzewski?

Luckily in the UK and I assume lots of other countries oiks still get access to free or at least heavily subsidised music lessons. Give our gov a bit more time tho

Haha so am I! sorry got our wires crossed (just checked whether Rzewski had twitter) xp

MEV invented twitter iirc

Free music lessons ended a long time ago and I think most local authorities no longer even subsidise them either - although as with most things in the UK it depends upon your postcode.

fwiw, somewhat of a response on his Twitter today

Steve Reich’s response to last week’s article in The Guardian by Philip Clark: pic.twitter.com/5Kek546yxE

— Steve Reich (@SteveReich) September 16, 2020

Was listening to Inside Music at the weekend on Radio 3 and Tai Murray played a selection from Drumming, which I thought was kinda interesting.