HANNIBAL on NBC seems amazing and therefore deserves it's own thread!

he gets absolutely cranky at Bedelia being less than a full partner early in season 3, lots of internal frustration

“are you a participant or an observer?” *pouting, cranky*

Ok, let’s try this again. S301-s0307.

Decadence! Everything about this series is drowning in it. It’s pretty difficult to make Florence look bad on film, but even so, this is such a feast for the eyes. I had to sit with a quietly grumbling husband who deeply wants to us to go to Florence as a result but, like most people, we aren’t going anywhere soon. Sad!

It definitely seems to be the sexiest series so far. Bedelia and Hannibal have obviously gone there (come on, the hair washing scene), Alana and Margot had their arty scene and there was a lot of vibes between Will and Hannibal even as he was preparing him to eat what the fuck is this show. Even Mason got some cattle prod action (is it bad the prostate milking was like the most mundane part of that episode?)

I actually squeaked a bit realising, yes, that was 🌟🌟🌟Tao Okamoto 🌟🌟🌟on screen. Between Tao on this and Abbey Lee on Lovecraft County, I’m enjoying my noughties favourites onscreen - Sasha Pivovarova cameo in something, please. Anyway, back to Tao. I will always regret not getting the special Vogue Nippon issuededicated to her about 11 years ago, but clearly the show appreciates her face as much as I do. It helps that her bone structure is perfectly suited to both broad daylight and being half-hidden in shadows. Obviously also my MGS fan background coming out, but I will always be a big fan of a female sniper. I think as of the latest episode I’ve watched, Digestivo, she’s meant to have left the scene but I do hope to see her again.

I found two more scenes I couldn’t watch: Mason’s facial surgery and then the part where Will is supposedly getting his face sliced open. Just too much.

Mason’s death was brief but gruesome, I can’t say he didn’t have it coming!

The threesome comment made by the English guy before he gets it is hilarious, not least because Hannibal definitely looks intrigued by the idea.

This post is very incoherent, but I lost the one I drafted yesterday so hopefully this one is posted and doesn’t end up the same way. I still love all the same things about the show I did before!

we shoulda mandated a summary for e'ery episode from you.

It’s really for the best that you didn’t

maybe you can read to me small blurbs of random episodes on the sssoom.

This sounds like a kink 🤨 this show really does ruin people

i know! although less or more creepy if other people are on the sssoom? mh will say just the right amount of creepy.

I'll read the Bedelia lines

s0308 - end of series

WHAT

THE FUCK DID I JUST WATCH.

Ok! Ok ok ok ok ok ok. What.

Let’s start small. Red Dragon I’ve read and watched the 2002 adaptation. Familiar with the major beats of the story. Dolarhyde devouring the painting - still hilarious. The murders themselves - still gruesome. I think Armitage was a better choice for Dolarhyde than Fiennes every was.

Fanservice - fucking insane. When Freddie calls them “murder husbands”, I thought, ‘That sounds like a tag you’d see on a fic.’ I actually went to ao3 to confirm this. Fans had been using it on their Hannibal/Will fic since s1! Bryan Fuller knows his audience!

“Is Hannibal...in love with me?” Like what is this show? What the fuck is this show?!?!

Rutina Wesley was sooooo good as Reba, I used to love her in True Blood as Tara. You need to be incredibly charming to offset everything else in the plot, and she was great. Honestly a great casting decision.

Is it terrible that I kept laughing at Hannibal’s jokes about Chilton post-maiming? Also, Hannibal opening the door of the police car and talking about mic drops - hilarious.

It felt as the last three episodes drew on all the other characters got faded out til the focus was just on the last three, and then the last two. It’s always been a series about them, so it makes sense, but even I didn’t expect it quite to that extent.

The ending though - Love Crime? Embracing covered in blood? The fall? Wow. What a show. What a show!

I don’t know what else to say except I regret waiting to watch this as long as I did... but then it’s been a great experience.

ehkscellent summary. if you rewatch again at some point let me know.

yess gyac i'm so glad you went on this journey

you complained about chilton back in season two and i had to hold myself back from saying he becomes one of my favorite characters in the whole show but it's after he "dies"

lol i just read his wiki paged and he really is brutally punished throughout the whole show. i love that he meets this punishment with an almost unfazed bitchiness

Yes, he really only comes apart right at the end and even then he doesn’t die! After all that!

iirc basically everyone but the lab techs endure what should really be multiple-times-over fatal levels of physical trauma lol

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For anyone who was interested/morbidly curious, I can confirm that Clarice is indeed the thinnest of soup and seems to exist mainly so CBS can add a 472nd procedural to their schedule. I believe they've shoehorned in every surviving non-Hannibal SotL character (including Precious!) whether it makes sense or not, and it appears that Clarice will be investigating a series of professional hits that have been taken out on whistleblowing drug trial participants. Because that's what the fans are looking for. Because this was truly worth preventing Fuller from using the character on Hannibal.

sad

The lead doesn't so much affect a West Virginian accent of her own design but rather does a straight-up vocal impersonation of Foster in SotL. It's weird.

Yeah it’s dire.

That fucking storyline about the drug trial “assassin”? Like. Just. Why? It’s such a dumb lame convoluted idea.

I have a truckload of complaints, down to minutiae. The accent mimicry is nuts.
Its like Silence of the Lambs yahtzee:
helicopter shot!
body in a river!
corpse fingernails!
hidden clues in a bedroom!

but now she’s some corny random farm anecdote machine THAY ALWAYS SAY BACK HAWM wtf

this detail pissed me off the most:
a year on & Clarice has PTSD ok sure
but she now bizarrely has a ready smile for every single person she meets including strangers? fuuuuuck that.

oh and we yelled at the tv over the “Remember your FBI training First Principles”?!
um.
Marcus Aurelius you assholes.
ffs

oh and Catherine Martin has an eating disorder now guys its totally fine

lol yeah I couldn’t finish the first episode of this - had pretty low expectations of it to begin with but just can’t get past that terrible accent. I’m sorry sweetie but you are no Jodie Foster.

bums me out thinking about what Bryan Fuller could have done with the Clarice material.

yeah that is a super bummer

jodie foster = nuanced & powerful acting as Clarice
clarice tv = a nice young woman in the same scarf driving the same car doing the same accent its basically the same thing

It's acting karaoke

It's really just the most cynical IP-milking nonsense. Hopefully it gets cancelled quickly and they'll be all UGH, FINE, JUST TAKE HER and let Fuller do a proper fourth season of Hannibal.

have some chocolate

I mean kinda the most indefensible aspect is that there's zero reason that the protagonist of the show needs to be Clarice Starling as opposed to, I dunno, Judy Von Meeplemorp.

Mary Capybara-Cooper

Helen Birdbath, Forensic Investigator

Esp since I heard (a long while back) that Fuller was maybe looking at Saoirse Ronan as his Clarice

I mean

CANT YOU JUST GIVE US THIS

lmao "helen birdbath"

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https://www.vulture.com/article/mads-mikkelsen-in-conversation.html

After The Hunt, you did Hannibal, Bryan Fuller’s NBC show about Dr. Lecter and his relationship with FBI agent Will Graham. What made you say “Yes” to a network TV show in the U.S.?
Yeah, how did that come around? We had just been successful in Cannes with The Hunt. And then my agent talked about Bryan Fuller — “this genius” she called him — and said I should have a look at it. At first, I was like, “Oh, God, Anthony Hopkins. That’s just a no-go.” He did it to perfection. Then I had a meeting with Bryan Fuller and he pitched the first season. And I was just like, This is absolutely nothing like the film. This is a different animal. I was one out of three or four actors they were considering. I was really reluctant to do that. I don’t like castings. Nobody likes castings. “Come on guys, either you want me or not.” But we did a couple of scenes, me and Hugh Dancy, and I think we had a great chemistry in that awkward way it was supposed to be.

Did you see his relationship with Hugh Dancy’s character, Will, as a romance?
Yeah, but not necessarily something that would become physical.

The murder of Francis Dolarhyde (played by Richard Armitage) is the consummation in some ways.
And also cannibalism, obviously. This is the ultimate way to love someone in his world, to eat them — right? We actually did a couple of takes of the very last scene where we were looking at each other, and it was a little too obvious — it was almost a kiss. Me and Hugh were like, “Why not? We have a couple of takes. Let’s do one. It might be cool.”

Did you kiss?
No, we didn’t. Never went for the kiss. Bryan loved it, but he was like, “Too much, guys. It’s too obvious.” And he was absolutely right. But I think we were just stuck on that. And a lot of the Fannibals wanted it as well. It’s been a subject of homoerotic fan art. And for good reason, because they are so united as twins in many ways. But we never wanted it to be a physical thing. It was something much bigger than that.

What were the discussions of the season-three ending like?
It had to be that they managed to kill someone together and both have the same sensation. Finally, I got him. Finally, Will Graham is me. They are inseparable at that point. We also knew that that was not the ending. We knew that there was a fourth season. We had something more up the sleeve, but then it didn’t happen. It was such a surprise to all of us because we did not have great numbers the first season, so we thought that was it. But we got saved and got a second season. And then in the third season we had much greater numbers. So we thought it was a given we would continue. And it didn’t happen.

Talk of a fourth season has gone away, but would you still do it to end the show in the way you envisioned?
Yes. The work itself was brutal because we had long hours, with scripts coming in late. It’s TV, and what we were doing was elaborate. The texts were high-IQ texts. The monologues or the dialogues were always about fine art, music. You had to learn Japanese, Hungarian, and words you had simply never heard before. And you had to do it within two hours because everything came so late. Having said that, I would love to go back. Everybody wants to go back, and if there’s only one season and we’re sure about that, he can finish it in a proper, surprising, stunning way.

It’s still such an improbable show in so many ways because it was on NBC.
Exactly. And I’ve been wondering if we had been on some other platform and could do whatever we wanted, would we have gone more for the graphic stuff and forgotten some of the poetry? Maybe it was a good thing we had to hold back. It served the show really well that we didn’t go full-blast Walking Dead on it.

that interview rules. love me some mads

he calls them Fannibals <3

just a little smooch, for the fans

Hero.

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watching for the third time, still the only good tv show

mid-season two when chilton's about to get framed by hannibal and he's running to jack like "i am trying to remain alive" is when he becomes the best character in the show, fucking hilarious

Otm

I think I watched a few eps of this when it first came out but it got too gory and I quit. But I’ve started from the beginning this week and while it’s entertaining, some things are really annoying e.g. the Angel Maker: how tf could he skin his own back, suspend the wings, tie his feet together AND suspend his whole body from the ceiling??? Also they repeatedly talk about the Hobbs’ victims all being identical to his daughter (even after he’s killed) because they all have brown hair, pretty, etc., and they all have brown eyes but his daughter’s eyes are blue???

Some of the dialog is corny af, like trying to sound poetic or something but more just overwrought cringe.

the dialogue just gets more ott, steel yourself