Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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can't believe as the hated United Kingdom reaches its long overdue death and millions more people are thrown into abject poverty while naked bigotry and hatred is openly celebrated across the media that people are being meaner and more judgemental

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link

if people had only been kinder and less judgemental to fascists in the 1930s

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link

apparently the "eat out to help out" scheme also meant that coarse working class people were going to restaurants and talking too loudly.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 14:57 (three years ago) link

What was Zoe doing in a Spoons?

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

Please replace all the ppl we hate with this

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/08/robot-wrote-this-article-gpt-3

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link

An old friend who writes about poker and horse racing said he lost some work at Betfair to AI.

calzino, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

GPT3 is better than most Graun columnists tbfttai

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

https://twitter.com/TheTrashiesUK/status/1303359484430082055?s=20

ffs!

calzino, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhZ2aGHWAAAH-Oh?format=jpg&name=medium

calzino, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

Were there *any* Remain organisations in 2016-19 that weren't an astroturfed, anti-socialist con? https://t.co/FhJHOtjuIg

— Juliet. (@zinovievletter) September 8, 2020



Here's looking at you Zoe

calzino, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

some of them were pretty spontaneous and sincere, the liberal middle classes were happy to embarrass themselves without particularly engaging in or being led astray by all this backstage chicanery. it ends up looking like a conspiracy anyway when they have no real interest in noticing or opposing it either

... (Left), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

some were even vaguely anti racist before the guardian/cameron crowd totally swamped them

... (Left), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link

I assume robots would be more consistent.

“This attempt to rewrite history is beneath you.” pic.twitter.com/mpyXy75IDR

— The Trashies (@TheTrashiesUK) September 8, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 10:29 (three years ago) link

I suppose a funny thing about ZW, writing all these supposedly insightful and practical articles about what politicians should do, is -- she has never been a politician. She wouldn't really have a clue how to do any of it in reality.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 11:21 (three years ago) link

To quote Dr Johnson, I've never been a carpenter but I know a wonky table when I see one

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 11:41 (three years ago) link

I would distinguish between

a) values - we don't need to be politicians to see the government is evil
b) strategies - I don't feel able to advise politicians on how to defeat the government.

I think we can all do a) but ZW falsely assumes that she can do b) as well.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link

This terrible tweet worth it for the responses.

The latest genre of sub-tweeting seems to be "Lady! Office is mysterious space! Must work full time in one to understand one! Going into one probably once a week not count! Full mystery only understood by me, super understandy man!" https://t.co/RnwqObkHZa

— (((Zoe Williams))) (@zoesqwilliams) September 8, 2020

the pinefox, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

if we were going to guess which newspaper might leap to the defence of JK

https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2020/sep/15/rowling-troubled-blood-thriller-robert-galbraith-review

how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 07:38 (three years ago) link

standing shoulder to shoulder with Nick Cohen in the Spectator, always a great place to be

how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 07:39 (three years ago) link

I mean so what if this transphobic writer has written a transphobic book? the tropes in there are all familiar from other transphobic books you've read before! idk what all the fuss is about. I have read this book and therefore I am qualified to tell you all that you haven't read it, so you should be quiet and stop making us feel uncomfortably aware of our transphobia.

这是我的显示名称 (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 08:01 (three years ago) link

The grotesque pretence that You Can't Say This Sort Of Thing In The Guardian Anymore, when for twenty-five years The Guardian has been the house journal of saying This Sort Of Thing. https://t.co/IvqZwQEwQ8

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) September 19, 2020

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 September 2020 13:33 (three years ago) link

I knew you’d link this. Easily one of the worst people to work for the Guardian.

scampo italiano (gyac), Saturday, 19 September 2020 13:37 (three years ago) link

at least we still get her Woody Allen apologism and thoughts on Jared Kushner's botox in between the transphobic pieces in the "lefty" graun!

calzino, Saturday, 19 September 2020 13:43 (three years ago) link

at least it's not the Telegraph eh?

how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 September 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link

She’s such an arsehole. She and her incredibly rich family are the only living people I can think of who’ve paid to have their own bench in Holland Park.

santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 19 September 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link

Lol pvmic

plax (ico), Saturday, 19 September 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link

<3

plax (ico), Saturday, 19 September 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

Kind of a relief to see Freeman writing for The Spec tbh - get in your lane dingbat

nashwan, Saturday, 19 September 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link

When I click on that Freeman link the page shows a load of 'similar Tweets' (in effect) below and they are things like Kate Hoey, Brexit Party, John Redwood. That's literally the algorithmic company Freeman's keeping now.

I agree with Nashwan, I'd rather see her in the Spectator than getting credibility from publishing anywhere else.

the pinefox, Saturday, 19 September 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link

Christ, her actual article is even worse than I expected - it's a 'diary column' or something.

It states: 'I am an innate people-pleaser'.

the pinefox, Saturday, 19 September 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link

Toynbee is back on the 'Labour patriotism' sauce https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/22/starmer-challenge-defeat-tories-patriotism-labour

plax (ico), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 06:58 (three years ago) link

Slightly more voters trust Labour on Covid than don’t trust them, but the pandemic should be long over by the next election in 2024.

Did anyone else get a horrible sinking feeling reading this coming from Toynbee?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 07:12 (three years ago) link

https://i.redd.it/h6mnve5xce651.png

cherry blossom, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 07:26 (three years ago) link

i have a plan for resolving that problem

1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 October 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link


I don’t like to see anyone until I’m on my second cup. My flatmate, one of the great loves of my life, says that nobody has ever hated her the way I hate her in the first half-hour of the day.
I fell in love with her in a kitchen, too: my old kitchen, 4am, fluorescent fridge-light, her eating cold leftovers, me pouring boiling water on to a pair of teabags. We were both sort of despairing in those days, and though we had known each other for a long time it was in that kitchen that I knew for sure that I loved her completely. I have never had a kitchen I didn’t fall in love in; I never want to.


Literally closed the tab, I’m too young to waste my life reading this shit.

seumas milm (gyac), Sunday, 4 October 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link

Why did you link it again?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 8 October 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link

Anyway this is one more funny.

I don't like to criticise other journalists, but from @guardian journalist to mouthpiece for this hard right, hard Brexit, international law-breaking PM is really quite a leap. I honestly can't imagine why she wants to do it.https://t.co/QL6ErUtd7E

— Christina Patterson (@queenchristina_) October 8, 2020

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 8 October 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link

i honestly believe i can imagine this

mark s, Thursday, 8 October 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link

I mean that video where she is shaming a w/c woman as a benefits scrounger might have let the cat out of the bag somewhat.

calzino, Thursday, 8 October 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

Her husband is a Spectator editor.

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 8 October 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

She is named Allegra Stratton.

Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Thursday, 8 October 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link

i for one cannot believe anybody with a right wing bone in their body has ever written for the Graun

1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 October 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

sounds like a name for some shit UK manufactured car from the late 60's that was still clattering about the roads a decade or more later

calzino, Thursday, 8 October 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

Just love this debate, it crosses over with shit liberalism thread too. From the little I see Lewis Goddall gets far more heat because he seems to do a good job reporting on government failure.

I fear that some, whatever their views on this government, are motivated by a desire to witness a woman fall from glory so they can say “told you so”. I well remember the bitter and purine response from Men of Twitter to Allegra’s Newsnight era

— Hannah Fearn (@hannahfearn) October 10, 2020

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 October 2020 10:06 (three years ago) link

whatever next? Theresa May - harshly judged feminist icon?

calzino, Saturday, 10 October 2020 10:14 (three years ago) link

weaponised feminism is a strong look

1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 October 2020 10:33 (three years ago) link

Elena ceaucescu was hated because she was a strong woman

plax (ico), Saturday, 10 October 2020 10:45 (three years ago) link

whatever next? Theresa May - harshly judged feminist icon?

― calzino, Saturday, 10 October 2020 11:14 (thirty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Is it a woman’s job only to call out sexism where she sees it affecting someone she agrees 100 per cent with? I don’t think so. Politically, I didn’t want Theresa May as PM, but they doesn’t mean her tenure wasn’t marked by blatant misogyny

— Hannah Fearn (@hannahfearn) October 10, 2020

soref, Saturday, 10 October 2020 10:50 (three years ago) link


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