Decent interview with the principals!
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/mick-jagger-keith-richards-goats-head-soup-lockdown-interview-1043673/
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 September 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link
lmao
― brimstead, Sunday, 6 September 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link
xxp
For everybody who wants an extended 'Let It Loose', here's the next best thing - 7 minute long instrumental ballad from Nellcote, courtesy of a Nicky Hopkins worktape:
https://we.tl/t-UBEgmsKtkI
― whitehallunity, Thursday, July 23, 2020 6:21 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
dang this is really lovely, is it worth seeking out the rest of this worktape?
― Joey Corona (Euler), Monday, 7 September 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link
I’ll forever r go back n forth on this one but today I’m feeling like Star Star is honestly the best thing on here
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 7 September 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link
Keith's arm in that RS photo looks necrotic.
https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/stones-goats-head-soup-aubrey-powell.jpg?resize=1800,1200&w=1200
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 September 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link
Man, "Winter" would be such a great track without those dumb "Levon" strings.
― Can Butch Vig not do "dynamimcs"? (morrisp), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link
This reissue is the bee’s knees. Other than the corny “remixes”. Page on “Scarlet” is just *wow*.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link
The live set on the reissue is awesomely noisy and the most house-disrupting thing I've played during COVID since the Hendrix poll.
― A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/9GROGxM.png
― Can Butch Vig not do "dynamimcs"? (morrisp), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link
"Star Star" must be the dullest "controversial" song ever... the band sounds embarrassed to be recording it.
― Can Butch Vig not do "dynamimcs"? (morrisp), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link
Without prejudice to the thread title/topic - the dropoff from Exile to this album is pretty extraordinary, IMO
― Can Butch Vig not do "dynamimcs"? (morrisp), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link
Dropoff from this one to "Black And Blue" moreso. That one's just a plain lazy album, IMO.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link
b&b has some choice cuts, "hey negrita," "memory motel," and "fool to cry" are as good as anything they've done, but it does feel tossed-off compared to the previous two.
― i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 22:10 (three years ago) link
Though It’s Only Rock’n’Roll actually comes after GHS doesn’t it? And that’s even worse to my ears.
― 29 facepalms, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 22:24 (three years ago) link
Tying to imagine “scarlet” played by Zep and it’s damn near impossible
― calstars, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link
Bonham just wouldn’t be able to handle that Charlie beat lol
― calstars, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link
It takes more than having Jimmy Page on your sing for it to sound like Zep. Ask David Coverdale.
― 29 facepalms, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link
Song. Obviously.
― 29 facepalms, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 22:31 (three years ago) link
I'm not a big Stones fan, especially their later era, but I once had a memorable night at a party (w33d) where I really vibed on Black and Blue. Now I feel like maybe I should try to reevaluate Goat's Head and Only R&R.
― Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 22:32 (three years ago) link
B and B has Memory Motel on it right? Untouchable
― calstars, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link
Yep. B&B is my favorite b/w Exile and Some Girls, but, egads, "Hot Stuff" and "Hey Negrita."
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link
― 29 facepalms, Wednesday, September 16, 2020 5:24 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
you're right, i always forget about that one, which is a true step down.
― i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 22:44 (three years ago) link
Yeah, Memory Motel was the track that really hit me at that party. Had somehow never heard it until 1990-something. (many xp)
― Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 22:45 (three years ago) link
honestly, i prefer the loose emotionalism of b&b to the sludgy hedonism of goat's head.
― i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link
egads, "Hot Stuff" and "Hey Negrita."
I love both of these, gtfo.
― Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 22:47 (three years ago) link
B&B is so well engineered. It sounds great, especially the Virgin remaster.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 22:48 (three years ago) link
There's almost a whole good album divided between It's Only Rock 'n' Roll and Black & Blue. I'd probably sequence it like this:
Side A"It's Only Rock 'n' Roll (But I Like It)""Ain't Too Proud to Beg""Time Waits for No One""Fingerprint File"
Side B"Dance Little Sister""Hand of Fate""Fool to Cry""Crazy Mama"
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 22:58 (three years ago) link
“hot stuff” is sweet, great openerI do love those Rolling Stones and their music
― brimstead, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 23:01 (three years ago) link
For the life of me, I'll never understand what people like about the drippy "Fool to Cry" ("Crazy Mama" and "Memory Motel" are decent, though).
― A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 23:05 (three years ago) link
"Crazy Mama" is an example of why I love Jagger on electric rhythm guitar.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 23:27 (three years ago) link
I love this album even thought it's considered the end of a magical run from 68-72. Listening to it, I was thinking about similar albums by other artists. Thinking of a poll, but right now just compiling a list (mostly dinosaur acts):
The Rolling Stones - Goats Head SoupLed Zeppelin - PresenceBlack Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody SabbathThe Beatles - Let It BeCCR - Pendulum
Would Erotica fit in here? A Prince album?
Is this on some level the battle of the New Jersey's? Idk.
― reassessing life after bookmarking a Will Smith thread (PBKR), Thursday, 7 April 2022 23:37 (two years ago) link
There are probably Pavement and Stereolab albums that fit in here too.
― reassessing life after bookmarking a Will Smith thread (PBKR), Thursday, 7 April 2022 23:39 (two years ago) link
Lovely story about my favourite song from the album
https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2496164/angelina-jolie-reveals-the-story-behind-the-tattoo-she-got-for-her-late-mother
― piscesx, Thursday, 7 April 2022 23:43 (two years ago) link
More like overlooked follow-ups suffering in the shadows of Iconic Releases.
See Also:
Fleetwood Mac: MirageClash: Combat RockTom Petty: Long After Dark
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 April 2022 00:04 (two years ago) link
Deep Purple: Who Do We Think We Are
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 8 April 2022 00:21 (two years ago) link
I thought CCR's "Pendulum" was still rightfully considered part of their great run of albums (despite "Rude Awakening #2"). Mardi Gras really signaled the end, a great double-sided single buried amidst dull and uninspired music.
― birdistheword, Friday, 8 April 2022 00:50 (two years ago) link
Yes, but, I'm sure there is some Bon Jovi fan somewhere saying that's what New Jersey is.
Otoh, I'm not sure anyone is voting for New Jersey when you put it together in a poll with Presence.
― reassessing life after bookmarking a Will Smith thread (PBKR), Friday, 8 April 2022 00:54 (two years ago) link
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is part of the classic BS run imho and so is its follow up Sabotage. It’s Technical Ecstasy where things really go off the rails
― calstars, Friday, 8 April 2022 01:17 (two years ago) link
Journey Through The Secret Life of Plants? Trust by Elvis Costello? Caribou/Rock of the Westies/Blue Moves?
Maybe some guidelines are needed about the length of the preceding run of successes, and what makes the album under discussion a disappointment, etc.
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 8 April 2022 11:36 (two years ago) link
I was thinking that the run of success should be at least three "classic" records, otherwise there would be so many possibilities here. Classic is, obv, in the eye of a beholder, but I am thinking of a pretty high standard where there is a sense (fans and/or critics, then or now) that the band overall can do no wrong. The disappointing album then is considered a mistaken change of direction or a misstep that doesn't meet the previous high standard. Not that the band couldn't produce another classic album later, but that there is a sense that the disappointing album is a distinct break in the classic run and the band entered a new phase.
― reassessing life after bookmarking a Will Smith thread (PBKR), Friday, 8 April 2022 12:04 (two years ago) link
― reassessing life after bookmarking a Will Smith thread (PBKR),
nobody thought GHS signaled a commercial decline, especially since GHS outsold EOMS and produced a #1 single.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 April 2022 12:06 (two years ago) link
Well, commercial success doesn't equal quality - there is a reason ppl refer to their classic run as 68-72 and not 68-73 - but that is the discussion: albums considered a break from a classic run that (maybe) are themselves classic but in a different way.
― reassessing life after bookmarking a Will Smith thread (PBKR), Friday, 8 April 2022 12:35 (two years ago) link
But I guess you are addressing my question re battle of the NJs.
― reassessing life after bookmarking a Will Smith thread (PBKR), Friday, 8 April 2022 12:36 (two years ago) link
“Winter” is a boring clunker. Sounds like some high school poetry …“just learned these two chords on guitar and now I’m going to write a song” Mr D and Heartbreaker are fire tho
― calstars, Friday, 8 April 2022 12:37 (two years ago) link
― reassessing life after bookmarking a Will Smith thread (PBKR
yeah
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 April 2022 12:38 (two years ago) link
xp Mr. D, Heartbreaker, 100 Years Ago are all top tier Stones for me. I think Winter is great, but it and stuff like Coming Down Again points out that the album gets by on vibe more than the previous four albums. But what a vibe! It's like they took the strung out, indistinct elements of Sticky Fingers and Exile and made a whole album of it.
Is it just me or is there way more keyboards on this album than the previous ones?
― reassessing life after bookmarking a Will Smith thread (PBKR), Friday, 8 April 2022 12:47 (two years ago) link
and those keyboards dominate the next two albums.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 April 2022 12:49 (two years ago) link
other than the singles, I never heard this record until like 2014 or something… I think "starfucker" was notorious for the time, but now you could probly "be rilly rilly into the Stones" but never have heard the song… and "can you hear music," with hints of the Jajouka/Brian Jones record, is maybe the closest they ever came to mystical proggish shit; also MJ at least was noticing Bowie and T Rex at this time, which certainly influenced the presentation/packaging…
― veronica moser, Friday, 8 April 2022 13:57 (two years ago) link
Mr. D is their Alice Cooper move.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 April 2022 14:14 (two years ago) link