Punk vs Metal

skid row covering ramones got a few of my younger pals into them actually.

Infact I can pinpoint the moment young kids stopped listening to the older heavy rock bands here. It was nu metal where anything traditional was seen as old fashioned.

I remember seeing Jello Biafra speak in 2000. He praised someone in the crowd for having the 'courage' to wear a Metallica T-shirt with a punk spiked jacket. It seemed strange to me bc I had never known anyone who wore spiked jackets that disliked Metallica.

I think Megadeth's version of "Anarchy in the UK" might have been the first one I heard.

i think Motley Crue covered it too?

https://i.imgur.com/UWIVUCg_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

fwiw I saw Jello Biafra speak in 2015 and he criticized the staff at 924 Gilman for losing the actual vinyl record of "Little Marcie sings to ($1.98) Children" and only having the album sleeve lying around ... it is a classic album of the creepy christian ventriloquist genre tbh.

Creepy Christian ventiloquists are p metal.

My rule of thumb: are the vocals obnoxious? If the answer is an unqualified 'yes', then it's punk.