like I remember seeing Nirvana in early 1991, and thinking, as a 16 year-old wearing my favorite joy division t-shirt and punk jacket and combat boots, "wow, I like this metal band!" ... but then apparently they were also considered "punk" (i.e. The Year That Punk Broke).
― sarahell, Sunday, 6 September 2020 01:40 (three years ago) link
Yeah, totally.xp
― The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Sunday, 6 September 2020 01:42 (three years ago) link
hmm. I mean I was born in 1976 but I never thought Nirvana were metal
― CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 6 September 2020 01:43 (three years ago) link
I hadn't heard of them before -- they were the opening band at a rare 16+ club night I went to a few months after I turned 16 lol.
― sarahell, Sunday, 6 September 2020 01:45 (three years ago) link
serious answer is even through the 90s to me metal seemed to be a totally different scene to punk/indie whether that was in my head or in reality, it was this other thing
― CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 6 September 2020 01:45 (three years ago) link
not saying there weren't differences -- just like, the music that is "popular" like ... what you'd hear on the radio or see on MTV as say, a 13 year old ... the music that was "metal" and the music that was "punk" had intermingled more in the 90s onward than say prior to that? idk again, maybe American thing.
― sarahell, Sunday, 6 September 2020 01:49 (three years ago) link
actually, I think I'm just gonna walk that back and stick to the i don't know and "it really depends on how you define each one" position.
― sarahell, Sunday, 6 September 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link
though i stick to my assertion about skateboarding as a factor in the intermingling.
― sarahell, Sunday, 6 September 2020 01:51 (three years ago) link
no I think we did have that here but I think more towards the end of the decade, and probably not really stuff I was into tbh
― CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 6 September 2020 01:53 (three years ago) link
nirvana were seen by kerrang readers as metal (except by the people who didnt like them)
indie weekly mags saw them as indie. Manic Street Preachers also straddled both. As did anything grunge really.
Wasnt til later really that rock/metal were seen as separate things.
― Oor Neechy, Sunday, 6 September 2020 01:53 (three years ago) link
your punk knowledge is very impressive to me, Colonel, just fyi ... like, seriously, I bow down
― sarahell, Sunday, 6 September 2020 01:54 (three years ago) link
It wasn't exactly uncommon for folk to have sabbath,zep,purple, pistols, ramones, metallica, killing joke, megadeth, the cult, the mission, sisters of mercy, ac/dc,motorhead,maiden, whitesnake ,priest, slayer, janes addiction and nirvana in their collections.
esp when bands like metallica and megadeth played punk songs live
― Oor Neechy, Sunday, 6 September 2020 01:57 (three years ago) link
colonel poo is the daddy
i forgot faith no more in that list.
― Oor Neechy, Sunday, 6 September 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link
and g n' r
― Oor Neechy, Sunday, 6 September 2020 01:59 (three years ago) link
skid row covering ramones got a few of my younger pals into them actually.
― Oor Neechy, Sunday, 6 September 2020 02:02 (three years ago) link
Infact I can pinpoint the moment young kids stopped listening to the older heavy rock bands here. It was nu metal where anything traditional was seen as old fashioned.
― Oor Neechy, Sunday, 6 September 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link
I remember seeing Jello Biafra speak in 2000. He praised someone in the crowd for having the 'courage' to wear a Metallica T-shirt with a punk spiked jacket. It seemed strange to me bc I had never known anyone who wore spiked jackets that disliked Metallica.
― The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Sunday, 6 September 2020 02:09 (three years ago) link
I think Megadeth's version of "Anarchy in the UK" might have been the first one I heard.
― The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Sunday, 6 September 2020 02:10 (three years ago) link
i think Motley Crue covered it too?
― Oor Neechy, Sunday, 6 September 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/UWIVUCg_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
― “Pizza House!” (morrisp), Sunday, 6 September 2020 02:52 (three years ago) link
fwiw I saw Jello Biafra speak in 2015 and he criticized the staff at 924 Gilman for losing the actual vinyl record of "Little Marcie sings to ($1.98) Children" and only having the album sleeve lying around ... it is a classic album of the creepy christian ventriloquist genre tbh.
― sarahell, Sunday, 6 September 2020 03:12 (three years ago) link
Creepy Christian ventiloquists are p metal.
― The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Sunday, 6 September 2020 03:24 (three years ago) link
My rule of thumb: are the vocals obnoxious? If the answer is an unqualified 'yes', then it's punk.
― pomenitul, Monday, 14 September 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link