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I'm loving Frost's Falling Satellites (which came out in 2016), I waited far too long for this. I've probably said it a few times but a lot of the surface aspects would normally be turnoffs but I love them.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 4 September 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

they're great!! the new EP (called Others) is really nice as well and has a few neat "how is this the same band" moments

frogbs, Saturday, 5 September 2020 03:26 (three years ago) link

if you don't have Milliontown you'll want to pick that up too. I dig Experiments in Mass Appeal too though its kinda like, I dunno, a good take on Linkin Park?

frogbs, Saturday, 5 September 2020 03:28 (three years ago) link

I have Milliontown and Experiments in Mass Appeal. The track "Milliontown" is one of my favorite songs ever, wonder if they'll ever top it?

Never knew about the EP, I'm sad there's no CD version.

I've never checked out the related bands but I did hear Lonely Robot in shops once and it had lots of nice familiar sounds.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 5 September 2020 05:38 (three years ago) link

I learned about them because Chris Squire bigged up Frost as a particularly good modern prog band and initially I was mortified by how poppy it sounded (this is over a decade ago) but it won me over shortly.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 5 September 2020 05:40 (three years ago) link

the pop elements are really why I love 'em, I'm kinda surprised that there aren't a bunch of other bands going for that sound

frogbs, Sunday, 6 September 2020 04:28 (three years ago) link

I also felt that way about Porcupine Tree, Opeth and other modern prog bands to start with, I thought they sung like boybands and my first Todd Rundgren album might have been Liar and that is super poppy in many ways.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 6 September 2020 04:43 (three years ago) link

new WOBBLER album may be all that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpOQp9gCfQA&feature=emb_logo

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link

Deluge Grander - Heliotians

This seems a short album for the band but I ended up liking it just as much as the others. Only 3 tracks and "Saruned" is probably my favorite, so rousing. I love their style, like they are doing a soothing series of documentaries about the history of the universe.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 18 September 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link

yea its pretty good, took a lot of spins to really get into it though

Oceanarium is still kind of impenetrable to me, there's just...so much of it

wonder what they're up to now. that 7-album pyramid thing gonna be finished in 2035 at this rate

frogbs, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link

What is that?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link

i know frogbs disagrees by 1 track and i do keep saying this but they are the best example in all of music of a band who will never, ever, ever beat album 1 track 1. i mean king crimson were heading that way and then they knocked out 'starless'. do DG have a 'starless'?

imago, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link

apparently they were gonna do a series of 7 albums, 4 "base" albums (in which Heliotians was one) which would be reworked into two albums which were combinations of two of them (Oceanarium uses some music from Heliotians plus one yet to be released), then one "mega" album that combines elements of all them

he used to have an explainer on the Emkog site but it's gone now. I wonder if it's still in the works or if he got bored of the idea

frogbs, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

What is that?

their sorta shot at a Magma-/Gong-like multi-album epic theme

The first thing was to come up with 7 album names that would each sound good on their own, and for which the titles could be combined in ways that also sound good and reflect the design of the seven album pyramid. I thought about this on and off for about a year before finally coming up with “Heliotians”, “Lunarians”, “Creek”, “Din”, the combination titles “Oceanarium” and “Cretin” (though maybe I should use “Creaked In”), and the title for the top of the pyramid “Creationarium.” The concept for “Heliotians” is the theory that the Earth is a hollow shell, with a small sun floating in the middle, and lands, oceans, and people living on the other side of the crust. This is actually a real theory, but it’s almost certainly not true. “Ulterior” is sort of about people digging their way to the other side, “Reverse Solarity” is about people flying in through holes in the north Pole, and “Saruned” is more about the concept in general. The seven albums aren’t intended to have any lyrical themes in common. Actually I haven’t put much thought into singing on the next two albums to be released, even though musically, they’re well underway.

http://www.arlequins.it/pagine/articoli/corpointerviste.asp?chi=317

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 18 September 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

review of the upcoming Wobbler!

https://www.velvetthunder.co.uk/wobbler-dwellers-of-the-deep-karisma/

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 18 September 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

very much looking forward to that one, From Silence to Somewhere really does feel like a great lost prog LP that would've slotted right in with the best of Yes

frogbs, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

Thanks for all that about the concept and Heliotians explanation.

I never much liked "21st Century Schizoid Man" to be honest.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

In a track for track sense, Falling Satellites is definitely Frost's best album. "Tower Block" is just so amazing. Fantastic album, deserved a much bigger audience.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

was fun to read discussion of that on the Proggressive Ears forum which is primarily made up of old men..."wait is this what dubstep is?"

the final suite is pretty nuts, really love the gnarly metal riffs they come up with

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

Just found out that tracks 12 and 13 are bonus tracks, makes sense. The vinyl has an extra instrumental.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05AFHeSk5N0

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 17 October 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

Frost have a new album out!

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 27 May 2021 01:20 (two years ago) link

Just listened to it yesterday, it’s very good but like their others it’s kind of an endurance test.

The Police clearly seem to be an influence here, particularly Stewart Copeland. It picks up where “Synchronicity 2” left off. Definitely gonna cop the vinyl if I can

frogbs, Thursday, 27 May 2021 01:36 (two years ago) link

Been trying to sample some Frost on Spotify, it's just not clicking for me at all. I love Wobbler though, def one of my favorite more recent prog discoveries.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 27 May 2021 13:57 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

The drumming on the track about the invisible boy is really fantastic. Is this the first time they've used so many different drummers? 3 different people.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

Recent (old) discovery, kinda what 90s Porcupine Tree would have sounded like if SW was a better singer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAHP1Ivb4fY

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 18:22 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Don't know if anyone around here still listens to Haken, they've moved pretty far from pure prog by this point, but the new one is... interesting. Some of the best songs they've written since The Mountain, imho, but others that are just flat out embarrassing.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 March 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBz9V0ZTfrE

Have I posted this elsewhere? I have no idea how many of the bands mentioned are actually prog, I only know who a few of them are but the channel is mostly about that kind of music.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 6 April 2024 19:17 (one week ago) link

Thank god, I thought this was going to be the "jazz isn't black music actually" prog youtuber guy

if i just keep writing a plot will emerge by itself (Matt #2), Saturday, 6 April 2024 19:36 (one week ago) link


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