Chauncey Billups is looking for a job...
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Thursday, 3 September 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link
Coming this winter to ABC it's player/coach JJ Redick in the Christmas Extravaganza "And a Shooter Shall Lead Them"
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 3 September 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link
donovan out in okc, surprised that actually happened
― Clay, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 01:16 (three years ago) link
amazing phrasing by woj here:
With reduced league revenues amid pandemic, there remains uncertainty on how long the Thunder might continue with key veterans in place before changing course on playoff contention. The timetable on so many plans in the NBA remain fuzzy. This was an extremely amicable parting. https://t.co/jUHQ2kiuEo— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) September 9, 2020
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 01:17 (three years ago) link
think that means gallo is gone, theyll probably shop cp3, too
― methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link
billy dont tank
― micah, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link
fire sale forthcoming
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link
paul's still got two years $85m left on his deal....
― Clay, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 01:23 (three years ago) link
he was so good (and healthy) this year that i think his trade market expanded significantly
not saying *i* would trade for him but
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 01:25 (three years ago) link
some interesting phrasing by presti in that article, too. seems like billy should be able to get another head coaching job right away if he wants to.
― circles, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 01:51 (three years ago) link
could see him go to a place like indiana to help them overachieve
― methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 01:54 (three years ago) link
sounds like chicago is going to take a look at him which makes sense
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link
billy dont do it
― Clay, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 02:11 (three years ago) link
Our brilliant son Zion still needs a coach.
― Fetchboy, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link
Yah NO would be a good fit
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 06:14 (three years ago) link
coach bud getting fired
My advice for @Giannis_An34 is to sit down one-on-one with Milwaukee Bucks Owner Wes Edens and figure out his strategy to make the team better and bring a championship to Milwaukee.— Earvin Magic Johnson (@MagicJohnson) September 9, 2020
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link
lol Magic the coach killer
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link
Magic cannot but resist to inject unsolicited drama anywhere he casts his gaze.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 10 September 2020 14:25 (three years ago) link
thinkin about how the rockets gave up two first round picks and two first round swaps to trade chris paul for russell westbrook
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 September 2020 13:09 (three years ago) link
morey is incomprehensible
― ciderpress, Monday, 14 September 2020 13:26 (three years ago) link
i can’t be convinced of anything other than morey knowing it was a suicide mission for the franchise and not caring bcuz he doesn’t like fertita and knows he won’t be there holding the bag anyway and this at least allowed him to do something weird
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 September 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link
recall morey on tv bragging about how many wins russ added to their team according to infallible secret metrics
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 September 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link
cp3's best qualities brought out by leading a team, russ' worst qualities brought out by leading a team. so the trade worked out well for the reputations of each of those players. just not for the rockets.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 14 September 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link
thunder also got pretty lucky this year, good health, won a lot of close games, but still obvs terrible trade by the rockets
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 September 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/xERlAk2.png
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 September 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link
ESPN Sources: MVP Giannis Antetokounmpo's 3-hour lunch with Bucks co-owner/governor Marc Lasry on Friday covered the season, how Bucks can improve roster, Lasry confirming willingness to spend into luxury tax and agreement they’ll talk again after Giannis returns from a vacation.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) September 14, 2020
rip coach bud
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 September 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link
i think all of these things are true
1. the rockets had to break up cp3 and harden for personality reasons2. morey knows swapping 4 picks for harden's super max contract is a horrific longterm trade3. morey knows there's little chance he'll be working in houston during the final two years of the westbrook contract4. morey convinced himself in the short term the team could get better by switching out cp3 for russ and going all in on d'antoni ball
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 September 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link
whoops i meant swapping 4 picks for westbrook's super max contract
could be, all not very wise for the health of his career tho, smart teams will certainly take note of stuff like that
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 September 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link
i just had a vision of him in philly and i think that is correct
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 September 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link
yesssssss
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 14 September 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link
I think (4) is wishful thinking only in the context of (1) -- paul was obviously a better fit for dan tony ball
― k3vin k., Monday, 14 September 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link
westbrook allowed them to play much faster. the trade made them worse but did allow them to go into the red stylistically
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 September 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link
they were rolling for a minute pre virus playing westbrook out of the high post, prob wouldntve worked in the offs but they didnt even really try
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 September 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link
he wasnt taking threes during that run but he reverted back
― Spottie, Monday, 14 September 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link
yeah
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 September 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link
by the time you get to the capela trade you can't convince me that d'antoni and morey didn't realize they could seize the opportunity to run an experiment knowing they wouldn't be the ones cleaning up the mess
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 September 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link
westbrook also had covid and by his own reporting couldn't workout for a month, and then got a quad injury. i don't think there's any way to win multiple playoff series playing the style they were playing but there are worlds in which it could have looked a lot better than it did.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 September 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link
The rockets have a bad owner which is probably driving a lot of this
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 14 September 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link
yeah was thinking there easily cldve been pressure to get cp3 out of town whatever it took cause harden didnt like him
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 September 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link
harden at least indirectly contributed to the capela trade as well because he wanted to iso more and pick and roll less
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 September 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link
anyone else feel like the rockets and bucks offenses looked antiquated these playoffs? to varying degrees teams like the heat, celtics, raptors have internalized analytic principles about where shots should be coming from but are running more diverse and sophisticated offenses that are far better oriented to playoff basketball than the “spread out and stand around while a guy goes one on one BUT DOES NOT SHOOT A MIDRANGE JUMPER” offenses the other two teams were running
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 September 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link
yeah i imagine some of it is scheme, i chalk a lot of it up to lack of versatility and secondary playmaking. the rockets have never really had much of a scheme. i don't remember a ton about the 60-win hawks but i'm guessing bud must have had some complexity in place to get that limited group to score. if we're seeing anything it's that you need multiple guys who can attack off the dribble and pass so if your initial action doesn't work you have another place to go.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 September 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link
i do wonder what it means for luka and trae young and the next generation of super heliocentric guys because i'm more and more convinced it's impossible to make a serious playoff run while playing that style.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 September 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link
yep being able to use the entire floor is a pretty big advantage against playoffs d. we've been saying that in here a bunch
there's extremely few guys in the league for whom an off the dribble 3 is a good shot and you end up having to take a lot of those if you're not willing to use the midrange
luka is not one i'm worried about but trae maybe
― ciderpress, Monday, 14 September 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link
taking a lot of borderline 3s is a good way to push matchups closer to 50-50 via variance which is great if you're the 8 seed and not so great if you're the 1 seed
― ciderpress, Monday, 14 September 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link
James Harden was one of the NBA's best scorers off screens, handoffs, and cuts in OKC and early in Houston. Now it's a nonexistent part of his game.Rockets need to make it a priority to bring back this aspect of his game so he's a more unpredictable, dynamic half-court threat. pic.twitter.com/nggTPTEXK7— Kevin O'Connor (@KevinOConnorNBA) September 13, 2020
this was pretty eye opening to watch... completely different player. made me wonder what a coach like spo, stevens or nurse would do w/ him
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 September 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link
is he willing to do that tho? he just stands around now or doesnt even cross halfcourt if its russ turn
― Spottie, Monday, 14 September 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link
that's the thing to me. harden has made it clear what he wants to do on offense and the rockets have for years basically been saying "sure, whatever you want to do."
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 September 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link
its crazy that hes still a good shooter while taking so many of the most difficult shot and does not want the easier shots
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 September 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link