Maintaining a Digital Music Collection

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Assuming deflator has an iPhone, Turn off the tap to wake and raise to wake features and you should be sorted

calstars, Thursday, 3 September 2020 10:10 (three years ago) link

wow I have never had this happen ON IPHONE

Joey Corona (Euler), Thursday, 3 September 2020 10:18 (three years ago) link

I've been using my (Android) phone for portable listening for ten years now and have never experienced these sort of problems. As calstars suggests, surely tweaking the phone settings will resolve the issue.

My phone takes a 512GB SD card, which holds more than enough music at decent quality. Use a decent player (such as poweramp, as anagram recommends) and off you go.

Duke, Thursday, 3 September 2020 13:40 (three years ago) link

I'm intrigued by where this is all heading. There are smartwatches and Bluetooth earbuds with on-board storage, not a lot but enough to carry a sampling of music for a vacation. The next logical step is to hook them up to cellular and just stream to your hearts content, but that's an extra monthly charge.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 3 September 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link

Also, on cellular they are guaranteed to have shit battery life.

Siegbran, Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

I've never had these issues listening to music on mobile phones, though I know experiences can vary. If the screen is off and the phone is on your pocket, it shouldn't be turning on or doing anything funky. You should also be able to adjust the volume without accidentally triggering anything.

“Pizza House!” (morrisp), Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

in terms of Android players I've always had good experiences with blackplayer

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link

in terms of Android players I've always had good experiences with blackplayer

are there problems with the google music app that shipped as standard, as my teenkid uses it and has no issues, so was wondering what are the benefits of using an add-on app.

mark e, Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link

Some players just offer a better ui or eq etc. There are lots of them out there. Some of the ones considered better come at a cost.

Duke, Thursday, 3 September 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

PlayerPro is also good, IIRC

Duke, Thursday, 3 September 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

i have to say that this seems an interesting option

https://www.etsy.com/listing/687507837/custom-built-and-professionally

$800 for a 2tb solid state drive with a weeklong battery means i could realistically carry more or less all of my digital music around with me.
lack of bluetooth is a hassle but a dongle should fix that, no?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 3 September 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link

that is pretty cool, I gotta admit. gonna stick with my 32GB Cowon for the FLAC player, though

sleeve, Thursday, 3 September 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

I got sick of dealing with my phone as a music player and bought a Shanling MO. It can take a 1 TB micro card although I'm waiting for the price on those to come down. Currently using a 512 mb card and it holds almost all of my music. At that capacity some of the features stop working but it can still be used to play through its folder system. At that level it is extremely basic, it will play albums which is all I really want it for. I've had it for about a year and it still makes me happy that most of my music fits in the coin pocket in my pants. Folks with big fingers might have a hard time with it.

Cow_Art, Thursday, 3 September 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

I meant 512 gb

Cow_Art, Thursday, 3 September 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link

I have an Android phone, actually (Moto G Stylus). It seemed like a good choice for a cheaper phone to play music on, it takes the 512GB SD card etc. Been using VLC player because I like the desktop version, but unimpressed with the mobile app. I'll give the recommended apps a try today and I am looking into screen unlock settings as suggested.
There are touch lock apps but I don't see myself going through that rigmarole every time I want to listen to music.
$800 is a little rich for me but i'd be interested in something like a fiio x1ii that has godd sound and a scroll wheel (and can be found for $50-100 on ebay, etc). Googling Shanling MO

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 3 September 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link

well the $800 on that refurbished ipod is for the 2tb top of the line model... you can get a 1/2 terabyte SSD one for $380! They go as cheap as $140 for a 64 gig model. i found out about this place through an article where the writer talked about buying those low end ones and giving them away as "mixtape presents" which is not totally crazy!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 3 September 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link

I have a iPod classic with a good battery but a dying HD and I would really like to get 1 or 2 TB put in there

I despise using a touch screen device for music listening. Currently split my time between a Sony Walkman with a 512gb micro sd in it and a cheap FiiO with a 400gb micro sd in it

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 3 September 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link

man I loved CoverFlow on iPods a lot, such a great browsing method

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Thursday, 3 September 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

That transparent upgraded iPod with the 3000 mah battery is some hot sh1t!

calstars, Thursday, 3 September 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link

You should also be able to adjust the volume without accidentally triggering anything.

Yes. Yes you should

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 3 September 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

Nope. Volume keys switch tracks when the screen is off.

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 3 September 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link

I fucking hate this thing

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 3 September 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link

lol

calstars, Thursday, 3 September 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link

I mean I wasn't a fan of touch screens, mobile operating systems or mobile internet to begin with. Was fine with a phone that can only make calls and a standalone music player with scroll wheel. Maybe I ought to just revert back to that setup.

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 3 September 2020 22:10 (three years ago) link

Aaand I keep putting it in airplane/do not disturb mode by touching my ear to the phone during calls. How on earth do ppl work these things??

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 3 September 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link

There's something wrong w/your phone, dude

“Pizza House!” (morrisp), Thursday, 3 September 2020 22:16 (three years ago) link

Don't rule out the possibility that my own bumbling incompetence/clumsiness is to blame.

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 3 September 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link

I use a Moto G7 and intentionally have vol up/down switching tracks, after either is held for a second. Enabled in the "Moto" app.

Going to bump a thread that may interest you.

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 4 September 2020 00:18 (three years ago) link

my 160GB final gen ipod classic, a workhorse since 2014, is suddenly doing the 'flash over and over again until the battery runs out' thing, as if unable to boot up. Whether plugged into wall power or USB. I hope I can save it but I already feel brokenhearted...

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link

It's a sad day, but I don't miss mine as nearly as much as I thought I would. Essentially, I'm glad to be free of the ecosystem and the endless updating of metadata and messing around with playlists etc.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

Oh I haven't been in the ecosystem for years, this iPod has Rockbox on it and everything is just folders and files. iPod classic with Rockbox is unbeatable.

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

Actually I don't think this unit has ever had anything but Rockbox on it lol

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link

everything is just folders and files

^^ gets it

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link

I have managed to get it to an off state while plugged into power. I’ll leave it like that for a few hours then try booting up again

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

God, the hours I spent trying to restore/recover iPods. Heady days.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

My phone managed to purchase a pair of adidas sneakers in a kids' size 4.5 off ebay while in my pocket this evening. fuck this.

Deflatormouse, Saturday, 19 September 2020 07:04 (three years ago) link

Good thing you’re not in charge of a nuclear arsenal

calstars, Saturday, 19 September 2020 08:12 (three years ago) link

My classic was able to be revived but after a couple of days it was clear it has a bad hd :(

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 19 September 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

really not sure how I feel about these spacehogging 24 bit FLAC downloads from Bandcamp, the Xmas Sonic Boom single clocks in at 4:51 and is 121.5 MB. This seems completely excessive. I guess I can always re-encode with xACT?

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 01:59 (three years ago) link

downsample with dbpoweramp

downsample to lossy if you believe bandcamp will last (and i've no reason to believe it won't)

mookieproof, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 02:09 (three years ago) link

thank you!

but seriously... why do this? is this just another example of file size creep in the nu-hard-drive era where we see stupid shit like 5 MB jpegs? I don't like where this is all heading.

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 02:13 (three years ago) link

"The Stooges Fun House 2030 60th Anniversary reissue in 6-Petabyte high definition like you've never heard it before!"

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 02:14 (three years ago) link

"Smell the download."

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 02:44 (three years ago) link

i hear you cluckin' but honestly it's nice to have the option of ultra-high resolution if that's your thing. it isn't mine, but i appreciate that it's the starting option rather than, like, a realaudio stream or something

mookieproof, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link

that is a totally fair point. I was just really taken aback by 121.5 MB for 4:51. and yeah I have like 2 TB left on the external so fuck it.

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 02:55 (three years ago) link

and my Vox program plays the 24 bit files, which I admit is nice

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 02:55 (three years ago) link

related: when exactly did VLC turn into garbage? it used to play gapless, but not any more.

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 02:57 (three years ago) link

tbf bandcamp could discriminate between 16- and 24-bit flac (insofar as i understand these terms -- i mean is lossless lossless or is it not?)

mookieproof, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 02:59 (three years ago) link

I think "lossless" means "can be decoded to 44.1/16 bit redbook audio" these days, the term hasn't really caught up with the explosion of 24/96 files

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 03:07 (three years ago) link

(i.e. that's another very good point sir)

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 03:07 (three years ago) link


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