Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

It's hilarious to see all the MAGA chuds (who allegedly already quit watching the NBA at least three times now over their BLM support) flipping the fuck out about their sports going away.

because underneath their bluster, they're weak, powerless fucks who for the last 4 years, have been used to getting their way.

i want to bottle their tears and then wash my asshole with them

they didn't move to Canada either time Obama won, and they create teary-eyed videos when they get fired for posting vids of themselves uttering racial epithets, they're professional victims minus the paycheck.

half expect if the NFL players actually pulled off a coup and held out their season in similar fashion, they'd be picketing outside the empty stadiums for two weeks and be screaming for an executive order that football needs to be played.

they didn't move to Canada Hungary either time Obama won

FTFY

brewers will not play tonight, which i find kind of stunning!

wow, yeah.

yeah, very surprised to see an MLB team do that (but good for them)

They haven’t really shown up the first 25 games why start now

Sorry I know this isn’t the thread for sports grousing but they just got swept by the fucking Pirates

BuzzFeed finds the teenage Kenosha murder suspect in the front row of a Trump 2020 rally. https://t.co/64dSSk00Oc pic.twitter.com/5kEs4Ck0R4

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) August 26, 2020

lol frogbs

Oh no Minneapolis please chill

how do you just say the words "I just killed somebody" without feeling any of the gravity of those words.

frogs that is a quality roast

Well this couldn't be any more on the goddamn nose

Kenosha shooting suspect is a former member of a youth police cadet program, Illinois police say

abolish the police

this is what the future looks like to you guys?

https://www.startribune.com/minneapolis-st-paul-buildings-are-damaged-looted-after-george-floyd-protests-riots/569930671/?refresh=true

that's what july 13 looks like to me

No, that's the present you dummy.

lol, xp

I feel horrible for those mom and pop places that were hit and hope their insurance and gov't aid cover all of their losses. And for all of the people in those neighborhoods that depended on the services/goods/employment of places that were hit. That said, it feels like the reporters should've been more specific/selective when mapping building and property damage. Barnes and Noble getting tagged up shouldn't really be in the same conversation.

The future looks like a place where riots and destruction wouldn't need to happen to get the attention of a state apparatus that wantonly murders portions of its populace through both active and passive means. 735 people have been murdered by police this year, and 180000 have died of a virus, and you're worried about the smooth flow of capitalism? Go fuck yourself.

My friend:

Let me give an OMG to information learned from an editorial meeting this afternoon that the Internet is creating a narrative that the Kenosha shooter as some kind of hero who was pursued by thugs for no reason. DO NOT BELIEVE THIS. I WAS THERE. He shot those two guys in front of me, one who is dead and the other who lost an arm because it was shred by his firing. He was being pursued by a crowd because he shot someone in the head one block away and was running in the direction of the police. He shot the other two because he tripped and fell. I give up. The Internet + hate + profiteering is destroying factual certainty. I am so disgusted.
** I know people want me to make this shareable but Post reporters, particularly me since I was alone there the first two days, are being trolled hard right now on Twitter by people who say we weren't there and our reporting is fabricated, etc. It would be an insult to even respond. The homicide detectives interviewed me and three other journalists who were there, so it's on record. UGH.

The conservative social media narrative quickly went from him being attacked by a brandished pistol and skateboard to hoards of Molotov cocktails.

So it's refreshing to hear an actual eyewitness account of the cowardice.

If you look at accounts the night of, all those assholes with guns were already spreading rumors of pipe bombs and other apparent bullshit. So it's come full circle.

Sorry for Daily Beast,but according to the criminal complaint, the thing thrown at Rittenhouse was a plastic fucking bag: https://www.thedailybeast.com/teen-vigilante-kyle-rittenhouse-killed-unarmed-kenosha-protester-who-threw-plastic-bag-at-him-court-docs-say

Also, Wisconsin does not have Stand Your Ground, just Castle Doctrine (which doesn't apply here).

Yesterday I kept seeing a recurring conservative comment meme that one of the dead men was a sex offender or something.

considering they only released the identity of them yesterday, either they are very fast on the uptake or outright lying

there is a girl on my FB who is absolutely lionizing this guy and it's disgusting

and yes part of it is that 'he shot a registered sex offender' though looking at the details it looks like a charge from 2002 or so, when the guy was 18?

I've been hesitant to say that fascism has arrived in the USA, but it seems like your brownshirts are now active & that's the key to fascism as far as I'm concerned.

xpost Castle Doctrine, or Mars Cheese Castle Doctrine?

I mean it's not legal to execute sex offenders no matter when the charges are from, so idk what that candy-corn brain is going on about

meanwhile these are literally the same people that are anti-Antifa because they object to the fact that they...punch Nazis?

xp there's a lot of overlap btw the "STC"/pizz4g4te/q people who are posting memes about gunning down ped*s and the ppl defending this prick. these are people who want to feel triumphant and virtuous in their homicidal rage.

Exactly. Cos it's not like they wouldn't support these shooters if their victims had clean records either.

just coming here to flag Thus Sang Freud's post and say "table otm"

"If sweeping up some glass and replacing a couple windows is a piece of everybody realizing the costs of racism-fueled police violence towards minorities is no longer affordable, then so be it," Bill Penzey wrote in an email to customers at the end of May, after the Minneapolis store suffered property damage and looting in the aftermath of the George Floyd killing.

https://www.upworthy.com/penzeys-spices-looting-its-own-store-for-racial-justice

kinda wanna disagree on principle with anything posted on upworthy.com ...

honestly though, esp. after reading comments and opinions from people where I live -- white, black, Latino, etc. -- it's not just "sweeping up some glass and replacing a couple windows." ... And not all property damage and looting have the same economic effects on workers, owners, communities. I appreciated that a few months back, there was an effort to avoid damaging black-owned businesses during BLM-affiliated protests. And considering a significant number of protesters were/are white ... to some people, it feels like super disrespectful and alienating to have white activists damage black businesses, and even just corporate-owned chains in black neighborhoods, for the sake of fighting racism? There's a colonialist aspect to it. Then you couple that with history of redlining and disinvestment in poor urban neighborhoods and the gross disparity of maintenance you see in largely affluent white areas vs. poorer black areas ... and smashing up a walgreen's has different undertones.

As gratifying as it can be to say "fuck capitalism, black lives matter more" ... the products and experience of capitalism often do provide comfort and positive benefits to people's lives, as they live them, as they feel them. ... It goes back to the "false consciousness" theoretical arguments from like the 50s and 60s that tend to come across as condescending as well as hand-wavey about how people experience happiness and fulfillment.

NO ONE GETS A SLURPEE UNTIL WE DEFUND THE MOTHERFUCKING POLICE!!!

I feel horrible for those mom and pop places that were hit and hope their insurance and gov't aid cover all of their losses. And for all of the people in those neighborhoods that depended on the services/goods/employment of places that were hit. That said, it feels like the reporters should've been more specific/selective when mapping building and property damage. Barnes and Noble getting tagged up shouldn't really be in the same conversation.

― Fetchboy, Thursday, August 27, 2020 9:55 AM (yesterday)

basically this -- Fetchers OTM!

I realise this doesn't really need to be said but: watching professional athletes throw their contracts and their unions' collectively bargained obligations to the wind because they've simply had enough has ben extraordinary.

we've never seen anything like this, ever, as far as I'm aware. not over police brutality, not over nazism - not on a scale like this. Even at the University of Tenne-fuckin-ssee the UT athletes - led by the football team - are having a campus-wide march on Saturday and calling on all the SEC athletes to do the same! I mean!!!!!??!

and it's pretty bracing to see such a vivid demonstration of the power of workers to make a difference. they're pretty much all in their 20s, and the student athletes not even that. probably facing all kinds of familial blowback over their actions. basically - god bless them all.

yeah.

Tracer otm!

Tracer, do you have a link for that UT story?

it would be a thing of beauty for SEC athletes to really make themselves heard right now

Very much agreed, but I do want to note that if we're talking about the NCAA then referring to them as "workers" is inaccurate, which is another injustice overdue for a reckoning

https://www.wvlt.tv/2020/08/26/ut-athletes-organize-march-on-campus-to-call-attention-to-racism/

rob i know what you mean but of course they very much are workers on whose labour a whole interlocking network of industries depends - i know you know that but just because they're not allowed to get paid doesn't i think invalidate that term

That’s a good point: they do deserve to be recognized as workers. My worry is that calling them that, or including them in the same broad category as unionized professional athletes, obscures the fact that to the ncaa they’re human capital. But I don’t think we actually disagree here!