Bobbins 2020

sick tunes

i relate to that unusually straightforward saer post

same

very little actually irritates me, it’s just not for me. or maybe just not for me right now!

i’ve posted a bit on some bobbins-ish stuff not really clicking for me until i’ve experienced it in the natural habitat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO5tRY6V2nw

anyone know whats going on here with the antique cash register collector and bongo roller?

that how villalobos got his start iirc

found it!

posted to bobbins of the past

there's definitely bobbinsy stuff that irritates me, i get irritated by boring music. literally everything anyone posts to these threads i enjoy on some level though. the really bad boring stuff i only hear from a few local djs who think they are really hot shit. where and how do they find such crappy music? mysteries abound.

I have become allergic to a lot of the more plinky minimal stuff, and certain strains of big room techno just turn me off. I'm really into electro right now, though, so that might just be where my ears are at.

I can imagine myself dancing head down in a dark basement club to the Peder Mannerfelt so it gets a tick of approval from me

well why didn't you say, we've got electro big dogs for you to run with right here

Animistic Beliefs - Ojo de las Grayas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWKLIAId2io

That's sick, thank you!

Prob not going to spark controversy but this is nice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=748FOfOglRU

^^ dope stuff!!!

kind of got a luciano meets carl craig vibe

Yeah, I was going to say it reminded me a little of Luciano and also weirdly of Isolee!

Love this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm2c5_bGdbw

good stuff

wow this ep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dzVmSUvf7c

🔥🔥🔥 !

found a couple cool mixes on soundcloud today ...

https://soundcloud.com/groove-magazin/answer-code-request-im-bierhof-rudersdorf

https://soundcloud.com/djshadow/from-the-dj-shadow-archives-dj-shadow-unkle-live-bbc-evening-session-1998

xp i'm kinda back and forth on the "bristol techno" sound. sometimes a little too grey and po-faced for me. but man when it hits it hits!! thanks for that micarl!!

https://soundcloud.com/djshadow/from-the-dj-shadow-archives-dj-shadow-unkle-live-bbc-evening-session-1998

TOO FUTURE!!

Just want to say that I'm in favor of people not liking things and saying so. Also it's funny to think that a few years ago I would have been laughing at the narcissism of small differences between music that all has the same beat (more or less) and is made out of short loops, but of course that's reductive. And even though I'm still not a big techno/house head, I have a lot more appreciation for the large effects that small differences can have. And if your track is a one bar loop, it's way harder than it looks to find the one bar loop that doesn't get boring or annoying over the course of 4 - 8 min.

Also this is a banger imo:
https://soundcloud.com/genomeshanghai/genome-666mbp-club-shanzai-bootleg-compilation-05-grrl-vs-impact-mantra-tzusing-glued

super good

i'm not for or against people not liking things. not liking things is a natural part of life.

but long ago i realized that "writing about music" really is "dancing about architecture". and 90% of the "serious pop music criticism" on this board is actually not music criticism at all, it's just really bad cod-sociology (the right kind of people like this so it must be good! the wrong kind of people like this, so it must be bad!) or even worse, pointless and absurd speculation about shit 99% of people on this board really know nothing about (the internal life of the artists who made the music and the techniques they used to make it)

so given that none of us really have anything interesting or meaningful to say about music, we can either be either supportive and make people feel good when they post bobbins (by appreciating what they posted) or we can be whiny and passive-aggressive and make them feel bad about posting (by complaining about what they posted).

so i choose to say nice things when i can say nice things, and in general to say nothing when i can't say nice things, because i want to make people feel good if i can and i want to avoid making people feel bad

anyone who knows my 20 year ILX posting history is probably snickering at that statement, but hey the wisdom of age etc

where is the right thread to post things like "I guess Loraine James is just buy on sight huh"

possibly this one?

Rolling (post-)Reconstructed Club Music 2020

lol @ the late great’s late-breaking pacifism

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

what can i say i'm a man of peace now

i think when someone is actually super knowledgeable about a specific niche there is an opportunity for interesting negative criticism, but the smug, dilettantish kind of dismissal typically seen in EOY threads is embarrassing imo. i don't mind negative reactions here, i genuinely did enjoy seeing some opinions. though i am glad some people said they enjoyed the tracks i posted, otherwise i might've concluded i just don't belong on the bobbins thread anymore

yeah i don't mind "that track has annoying sounds" or "i'm sort of over x or y" but am definitely turned off by / would want to avoid snobbery or reverse snobbery.

xxxp

haha, Tim F!

I agree with most of the post, tlg. I now mostly resist making negative comments apart from when you really feel the urge to make a particular point. I'd criticise someone's opinion on a movie or book more readily but I'd still be reluctant to do so about something someone liked a lot but then again sometimes you've watched Midsommar and you really need to say something.

the music discussion i tend to enjoy nowadays is less analysis and more description. i wanna know more about music scenes i don't have first-hand access to, i like to be able to imagine myself in the situation in which the music sounds best

I think it’s really just a question of “can this person say anything interesting about this music other than expressing their dislike”. It’s a lot harder to do so with something you dislike because there’s not much motivation to spend time with your dislike, examine it from multiple angles, come up with an articulation of it that isn’t just a patchwork of received wisdoms etc.

One way in is to frame the question as “what could this music do that would make me like it more?” But the problem is that most answers to that are just, “be more like this music over here which I am already emotionally or financially invested in boosting”, which is really just a device to excuse and justify further non-engagement.

In this thesis I will-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJFjbKnuF-Q

Wholesome activity from Javier Zugarramurdi

also i should clarify i don't mean to police this thread or board, if being negative nancy is your deal have at it and i won't criticize further, but that's basically how i break it down to an extent re: how i want to spend my time on the internet at the ripe old age of 43 vs 23

I think it’s really just a question of “can this person say anything interesting about this music other than expressing their dislike”. It’s a lot harder to do so with something you dislike because there’s not much motivation to spend time with your dislike, examine it from multiple angles, come up with an articulation of it that isn’t just a patchwork of received wisdoms etc.

yeah well put

As for that track that caused the kerfuffle, I did go back and listen to it again, on my studio monitors. I still think the sample is wildly irritating, but the peak of distorted madness is kind of nice...I just don't like the rest of the track, which relies on an uncomplicated beat, little in terms of secondary rhythmic structures, and a vocal sample. It just doesn't move me at the moment, whereas the Sansibar track I posted above it is really where I'm at... Listening to a lot of electro these days!

I like descriptions of texture, vibe, and what kind of scene a techno/house/etc track might fit into and possibly a “TIP!” if it’s especially good

dance music is interesting in, like other types of sounds that might be more tracky than songy, there’s a place for standalone songs, dj tools, peak hour intensity, weird experiments

Love the chill vibes from tlg

Absolutely slaughtered me multiple times over the years lol

*let the atonement begin*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stM8-0BncCE

new dj slyngshot on workshop ... fucking b o n k e r s

riyl puristic mpc breakbeat jackin

https://youtu.be/IVfZOHi67Qc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=IVfZOHi67Qc

Oh ffs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVfZOHi67Qc

yes, that's the one!

;)

so good! bliss

A2 is revealing to be a real trip too, wilder

The Slyngshot is great

Looking forward to this new Pessimist on Ilian Tape!
https://soundcloud.com/ilian-tape/itx018-pessimist-atyeo

this whole slyngshot ep is killer! thanks for the heads up!