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On second thought there are some things that are exceptional about America, carry on I say

rob, Monday, 24 August 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link

Biden/Harris 2020: less drama, more Obama

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Monday, 24 August 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link

It's not just 50 fast food menus?

muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 August 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link

this shit is what you turn in if you meant to write your book report early but had to do it on the bus ride day of. Utterly embarrassing and vague to the point of imbecility.
"Make All Critical Medicines and Supplies or Healthcare Workers in the United States"? Might as well say "Chicken in Every Pot".

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 August 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link

End Honorbale

a powerful start to this Monday morning 💥 pic.twitter.com/LrgDvDH1we

— Grace Panetta (@grace_panetta) August 24, 2020

nashwan, Monday, 24 August 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

Honor Bale!

muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 August 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

Told you! Washington has Christian Bale on the mind!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 August 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link

waht

The official operating platform of the Republican Party in 2020 declares: "The current Administration has exceeded its constitutional authority, brazenly and flagrantly violated the separation of powers, sought to divide America into groups and turn citizen against citizen." pic.twitter.com/4e05FSs28b

— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) August 24, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 August 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link

Did they cut and paste that from the last convention?

There's now been a steady stream of current and former Republican officials - governors, congressmen, cabinet, military, intelligence, hacks, et al. - all explicitly endorsing Biden (the latest I saw was former GOP Illinois Gov. Jim Edgar). The question I have is how many of the aforementioned voted for Asshole or against Asshole the last time, and how many of the latter group voted for, let alone endorsed, Clinton. Edgar, for example, was not a Trump supporter, but he also never went so far as to say he was voting for Clinton last time.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 August 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

At the #DeJoy hearing, the Republican ranking member just introduced him as a logistics wizard, and mocked Democrats for not knowing how to work a "mute" button. He then turned it over to the logistics wizard, who promptly started talking without turning off his mute button.

— Dan Fagin (@danfagin) August 24, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 August 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

xp they could fix that part, except the 2016 platform included this clause at the end:

RESOLVED, That any motion to amend the 2016 Platform or to adopt a new platform, including
any motion to suspend the procedures that will allow doing so, will be ruled out of order.

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 24 August 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link

Stupid and evil.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 August 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link

That's really it, isn't it? I've said from the start that the only excuse for supporting Trump is you're either stupid or an asshole, and now we know what a policy and platform based on a combination of both of those things gets us.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 August 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link

after 2012, the GOP "post-mortem" infamously made motions toward being more inclusive, toning down the anti-immigration, being less of a white evangelical party, etc.

8 years later, they didn't even bother to update the 2016 agenda of the world's leading racist conspiracist

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 24 August 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link

Why mess with a winning formula?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 24 August 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

where does the lie about him being Honourable come from?

Stevolende, Monday, 24 August 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

he's less honourable, much more honorbale

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 24 August 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link

American Psycho?

Stevolende, Monday, 24 August 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

More like American Sychop

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 August 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

so now taht we know he was oly lightening thge loads of poor postal carriers and making sure tehy didn't stress out by carrying mail in off-hours.
How very very empathetic of him.

I'm glad tose lovely lovely GOP guys are there to put things right.
pooh-pooh the idea of the story supporting russian interference even more.

Try to help the USPS break even, better reelect t so that you can have the army looked into. Anything else?

Stevolende, Monday, 24 August 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

This guy's assault was pretty good:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4901726/user-clip-lynch-questions-dejoy&fbclid=IwAR0veUmBWA22Wq0EyV91Rq2Op-CkVDO_NhvSENCq3y6941jp1MJ0jfSAK1A

No DeJoy in Mudville.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 August 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

lol

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Monday, 24 August 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

When I called one party elder, he joked that it’s a good thing Republicans decided not to write a new platform for the 2020 convention—because they have produced nothing novel since the last one was written. Trump and his party have relied more on squabbles than solutions in delivering for their base. Even some of the president’s staunchest supporters concede Buck’s point in this regard: The party is now defined primarily by its appetite for conflict, even when that conflict serves no obvious policy goal.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/24/republicanmeltdown-trump-convention-400039

jaymc, Monday, 24 August 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

That article is frustrating, because it ignores that there are two "big ideas" in the Republican Party:
1) make rich people richer
2) racism

Joey Corona (Euler), Monday, 24 August 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

i wonder how long this was focus grouped?

President Trump at the Republican convention: "Think of your life just prior to the plague coming in. It was the best it's ever been."

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) August 24, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 24 August 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

that alberta piece is a good read but asking "good faith" republicans what they stand for is not the only way to find out what republicans stand for.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 24 August 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

i mean the fact that they literally can't answer it is interesting, but if you actually want to know the answer then look around.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 24 August 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link

The so-called "moderate" ones just don't want to say the answer. The main difference with the current US president is that he says the truth out loud.

Joey Corona (Euler), Monday, 24 August 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link

2) racism

The ones who don't want to say it out loud have deftly replaced this with

2') racism is technically bad, especially when exhibited by dead people from the past, but not as bad as people who don't think they're racist being criticized for doing racist things

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 24 August 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link

That article is frustrating, because it ignores that there are two "big ideas" in the Republican Party:
1) make rich people richer
2) racism

― Joey Corona (Euler), Monday, August 24, 2020 12:57 PM (sixteen minutes ago)

exactly, and #2's fostering of a culture of white grievance is an end in itself but also provides ample cover for #1

rob, Monday, 24 August 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

at great length, jeff flake reveals who he will be voting for this fall


.....

I have never before voted for a Democrat for president. But I’ve been asked many times over the past four years if I, as a conservative, couldvote for a Democrat for President. “Sure,” has been my ready answer, “if he or she were a Joe Biden-kinda-Democrat.

Well, the Democratic Party just nominated a Joe Biden-kinda-Democrat, whom I am confident will approach his constitutional role with the reverence and dignity it deserves. I know that he will reach across the aisle, because that’s what he’s done his entire career.

...

https://medium.com/@JeffFlake/heres-who-i-ll-be-supporting-for-president-and-why-ce983293fae6

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 24 August 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

so this RNC convention is going to be like an all day thing for four days? who is going to watch this shit? is it being broadcast?

akm, Monday, 24 August 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

I know that he will reach across the aisle, because that’s what all he’s done his entire career.

DJI, Monday, 24 August 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

"Think of your life just prior to the plague coming in. It was the best it's ever been."

If Trump is talking about the plague of his presidency he's actually right.

Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Monday, 24 August 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

The good thing about the Republican convention is that we are absolutely certain that Trump will accomplish nothing this week, because he will be watching (and live-tweeting) it all day long, except for the time when he is personally speaking, and when it's over on Friday he will spend that day and the weekend obsessively watching (and live-response-tweeting) the coverage.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 24 August 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

This guy's assault was pretty good:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4901726/user-clip-lynch-questions-dejoy&fbclid=IwAR0veUmBWA22Wq0EyV91Rq2Op-CkVDO_NhvSENCq3y6941jp1MJ0jfSAK1A

No DeJoy in Mudville.

This was very satisfying (up until DeJoy started speaking), thanks. cool irony with the link that funds anti-democracy propaganda though

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 24 August 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link

The marathon (almost four years now) staging of Samuel Beckett's Waiting for Pivot continues:

A senior GOP strategist, who is not a "Never Trumper" and often gives the president the benefit of the doubt, tells me: "If what we just heard is a preview of the President's message for the week, he loses and we lose. We can kiss the Senate goodbye if the tone doesn't change."

— Jeff Zeleny (@jeffzeleny) August 24, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 24 August 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

Well I guess you'd better go ahead and start slathering on the lip balm now.

the secret of sucess is to know all rules ...and brake them (Old Lunch), Monday, 24 August 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

THIS TONE, WHERE IS IT COMING FROM ALL OF THE SUDDEN?!?

the secret of sucess is to know all rules ...and brake them (Old Lunch), Monday, 24 August 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link

I have a Trump-skeptical Republican friend (he mostly morosely posts about how Democrats aren't condemning riots and Ilhan Omar enough for his taste and tries to ignore everything coming out of Trump's mouth) who the other day said he felt the Democratic convention had created an opening by not focusing on specific proposals, which Republicans could take advantage of by coming through with a convention rich with fully worked-out policy, and I just was like, it must be so sad to keep waiting for the thing you think has been hiding in there all along, never admitting it was never there and never will be there!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 24 August 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

lol at the idea that tone is the problem when you're running on "Think of your life just prior to the plague coming in. It was the best it's ever been."

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 24 August 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

lol Trump didn't get to be president with rich, fully worked-out policy. He got there with demagoguery. It's what he knows, and it's what his base loves him for. xp

Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Monday, 24 August 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

Joe Kennedy's wife is even worse than him

This young widow would be me.

And this is what ⁦@EdMarkey⁩’s campaign condones. pic.twitter.com/jhc8CJPAil

— lauren kennedy (@laurenkennedyMA) August 24, 2020

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 24 August 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

lol why is he speaking in a fucking parking lot https://t.co/swC0fsLROO

— kilgore trout, new tone haver (@KT_So_It_Goes) August 24, 2020

Is this gonna be the RNC?

"We're going to have 'Trump Drops'! We've got portable PA's, selfie-sticks, no facemasks, and a list of locations in the greater Charlotte area where the president will make surprise speeches--all the best places: Home Depot, Ramadas, Sonic Drive-In's..."

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 24 August 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link

"I believe we've even locked down a Ram dealership. Donald loves trucks!"

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 24 August 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link

This place has everything

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 24 August 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link

“the plague coming in from China” (faint squeals of approval)

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Monday, 24 August 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

he felt the Democratic convention had created an opening by not focusing on specific proposals, which Republicans could take advantage of by coming through with a convention rich with fully worked-out policy, and I just was like, it must be so sad to keep waiting for the thing you think has been hiding in there all along, never admitting it was never there and never will be there!

The New Yorker peddled this bullshit too.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 August 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

As the GOP convention opens, could President Trump find lessons from 1988, where Lee Atwater famously revived Bush and sunk Dukakis through a plan “to strip the bark off the little bastard." A must-read from @adamnagourney: https://t.co/YoHewbCgGt

— Jeff Zeleny (@jeffzeleny) August 22, 2020

Any time you're asking the question, "Could Trump find lessons from..." you're fucking up.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 24 August 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link

I wonder what might be different about late summer 1988 and 2020. I’m sure the economic situations are similar...

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 24 August 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link


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