Lindsey Buckingham: C o' D?

Maybe it has to do with this

https://www.iheart.com/content/2018-07-09-lindsey-buckingham-abused-stevie-nicks-for-years-says-biographer/

Or Lindsay generally being one of the most renowned assholes in music

Maybe they don't feel like doing a record but enjoy doing live shows

Maybe it's a fucking drag to record with Lindsay and they are old and just don't want to deal with it

also have to imagine it's exhausting to record an album as you've gotten on in age, take it on tour, only to hear requests for all old shit throughout the set at every show and people whining if you do more than 1 tune from the new album.

(I wonder if that's why Motorhead weirdly toured behind their final album in 2015, and didn't do one damn song from it, when I saw them)

I know "nostalgia act" is used as a pejorative, but I don't think bands that are touring and playing the music they love in front of multiple generations of fans who may or may not have seen them before are obligated to continually put out new material.

If Carcass put out their next EP and album this year/next and were to say "y'know, we don't have any more new material in us anymore, but we're gonna keep touring anyway for the next decade cos we love our fans and it helps us to not get day jobs as well" - some people would view that negatively and say 'oh god they're just gonna milk these albums forever" but that's kinda..rockist...innit?

"We love Lindsey, and we want him to have everything that he wants and for all his dreams to come true. But this is not about art."

― lukas, Friday, August 21, 2020 11:43 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

This. FM are just as shameless when it comes to making money as the Eagles.

Recording is work, playing gigs is easy money.

Lindsey would be better to just cut bait and go make music with young musicians that are hungry to make it happen. I think in the end he would be much happier in the long run and would get to make music.

Can't speak for Lindsey, but pretty sure Mick and Stevie (and maybe the others?) had burned through their 70s millions by the 80s.

It's weird to me to regard him as underrated tbh. He's been overpraised as genius arranger since the late '90s.

I'd prefer to read a piece arguing for the brilliance of Christine McVie.

I guess Lindsey sank his in a house in Brentwood, which has paid off very well.

Nice crib

been there two times, never going back again tho

Bucky pulls a Dylan, which I guess others have been doing as well?

https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/news/lindsey-buckingham-fleetwood-mac-hipgnosis-merck-mercuriadis-1109830/?fbclid=IwAR3tV0sK-KHlxohENaFFgNJptymHPI83peV0nCbZSCTlx6JBmtHSZgIK_Oo

After today's news about another big rock song catalog acquisition (Fleetwood Mac this time), it's probably worth sharing this again—my analysis of why this is happening and what it tells us about the future of the music business. https://t.co/CJVwibtCEj pic.twitter.com/YJRdKHT8sg

— Ted Gioia (@tedgioia) January 5, 2021

That tweet is very depressing. I'm going to bed.

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Is it? It guaranteed his family a bunch of dough forever.

Good for them. B-b-but...

Pretty sure that Stevie already sold her rights, not sure if that registered here or not.

yep, just one month ago:

https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/news/stevie-nicks-fleetwood-mac-catalog-primary-wave-1098850/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lagpYLwnSd8

Just of a bit of yet another collapse of a way for people to be rewarded for their labors, let's be cool.

Variety relentlessly reports on these Hipgnosis deals (for some reason); not sure why this one registered in particular?

(I’ve assumed Jem Aswad gets a kickback or some other incentive for writing up every damn Hipgnosis announcement)

Is it? It guaranteed his family a bunch of dough forever.

this was likely guaranteed long before this deal

Because I’m painfully fair, I must amend my above remarks to note that Aswad apparently reports on non-Hipgnosis publishing deals as well.

(This other company, Primary Wave, is that one that Stevie Nicks made a deal with last year.)

Is he right about consumers spendling less in point 3? I was under the impression that revenue was actually rising in the streaming era. Official trade body seems to think so https://www.ifpi.org/our-industry/industry-data/ that it’s not necessarily going to the right people is a different story as on the numerous Spotify threads.

Fleetwood Mac's complete and total transformation into the The Eagles is totally sad, but it's probably been a balancing act since The Dance. The writing was on the wall when Stevie and Mick tried to replace Christine fucking McVie with Sheryl Crowe. Members are fungible and profits are all that matter. It's a boomer nostalgia clown show. And I don't that Lindsey is the only trouble maker in the band and deserved to be fired. Stevie chucked a steel chair at Christine in 1987 and has done her fair share of rotten shit.

glad i got to see them all on stage around 2013

At the least the Eagles still have Joe Walsh. I'm not an Eagles fan, but I'd rather go to their show than a Fleetwood Mac that's been turned into the Stevie Nicks show.

As I see it The Eagles have always been very openly corporate. Don and Glenn never try to hide it while FM tried to foster an image of a dysfunctional incestual family, but a family nonetheless. Joe Walsh is the only reason to see The Eagles. Don Henley has always been a wet fart. Mick and Stevie also fired keyboardist Brett Tuggle, who had a close working relationship with Christine and then laughably replaced him with her solo touring keyboardist. It's sad to see that Christine is done. She's a ridiculously good writer and never got her due because her ego wasn't huge and Stevie, Lindsey, or Mick's. She's pretty much retired. RIP Fleetwood Mac.

After Peter Green left, Danny Kirwan and Christine were by far the best things about Fleetwood Mac, and with Kirwan soon gone, she carried the band IMHO. Bob Welch was okay, he had a few songs I really liked, but she was a far better and more consistent songwriter as well as a far more appealing vocalist. You can compile a truly great Christine McVie solo album from the best songs she wrote for FM before Buckingham and Nicks came on board, and afterwards she and Buckingham edged out Nicks as the best songwriters for the group. I can't imagine going to a show if Christine and Buckingham are truly gone, not unless someone else is paying.

I once burned a 2 CD comp of Christine's songs in FM and it's just ridiculous how consistently great her songwriting is. The problem is that money is in touring and Stevie puts butts in the seats, therefore she gets to make all the executive decisions. Fleetwood Mac only tours and records an official Fleetwood Mac album when Stevie says so. It's a crime that Christine's last appearance on an official FM release was 31 years ago. Now Mick Fleetwood is trying to put together a ramshackle Fleetwood Mac tour involving all remaining Fleetwood Mac members. Nuts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddLKaiGDPIg

fantastic imo

He's such a consistently great writer/arranger/producer/player.

Beautiful, he don't miss. Seeds We Sow was his best album yet imo

As a Tusk lover who was ambivalent towards Law and Order, which Buckingham album might I like best?

Hmm, probably Out of the Cradle. But all the albums after that are great, too, or at least less uneven.

(Less uneven than the first couple, that is. After those two it's pretty smooth sailing in Buckyland.)

Out of the Cradle's a solid intro if you know him as a band member; even though he plays or programs 98% of it himself, it's not as minimalist as the others.

Go Insane is a fascinating boomer-goes-new-wave moment though the songwriting's more wan.

Yeah, was going to recommend Go Insane if you haven't heard it. It's about as ambitious as Tusk but completely different sonically--very 80s neo-psych, closer to Tango In the Night

Iirc, very "hmm, what does *this* button do?"

I agree, Out of the Cradle is excellent.

BUT, the Solo Anthology is a great compilation, and I'll add that I never thought *that* highly of solo Buckingham until I got that three-disc set and listened to it from start-to-finish. I was skeptical of the whole thing - THREE discs? c'mon - but seeing it on clearance convinced me to give it a chance, and man was I wrong. (To be clear, it's more like a two-disc set with a great live disc as a bonus.)

(And to be fair, a lot of Out of the Cradle is on Solo Anthology - it really is an excellent album)

yeah it’s great.

“street of dreams” haunting af

I almost nailed the acoustic intro to “don’t look down” years ago

My new self-titled album is one I’ve been intending to get out for a couple of years now, but on more than one occasion, unforeseen circumstances necessitated a postponement of plans. Now that we’re back in gear, I’m thrilled to finally be sharing this new music with my listeners!

In other words, "my new album is once again stuff I'd been sitting on for potential use on a new Fleetwood Mac album, but now that they've gone their own way, I'm keeping them for myself."

how many buckingham solo albums that could have been parts of a respectable enough late career FM album if he'd been able to get the others on board are we up to now lol? & of course he managed to get everyone except stevie on board for buckingham mcvie

will also rep for out of the cradle & go insane, both very enjoyable stuff. love "don't look down"