the killers - are they killer?

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it was the first properly good brandon flowers album, this one's the second

― ufo

I was just going to ask about this. I've never really liked much for the band at all but The Desired Effect was brilliant. I listened to the last album hoping it would be more of the same but it didn't do anything for me. I guess I'll have to give this one a go.

kitchen person, Saturday, 22 August 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link

this album doesn't really have the same synth-dominated sound as the desired effect but it's another album of brandon flowers at his best so if you liked that one i'd expect there's probably a lot to like here too

https://www.nme.com/news/music/the-killers-to-release-another-new-album-in-2021-it-might-be-better-than-this-one-2735596

it's cool they're working with the same producers for their next album, they really seemed to have made a difference for this one so i'm looking forward to more

ufo, Monday, 24 August 2020 09:23 (three years ago) link

this album is very produced by jeff lynne without having been produced by jeff lynne

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 24 August 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link

Lynne in 1990

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 August 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link

oh yeah that's what i meant

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 01:05 (three years ago) link

i like this album quite a bit but can't really get into either of the side enders ("lightning fields," title track) yet. "dying breed," "caution," "fire in bone," "running towards a place," "when the dreams run dry"... all pretty staggering

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link

Somehow Big Arena Rock and Roll finally coming down to a semi-self-tortured Mormon who can't decide what to do with himself in creeping middle age is a little too on the nose for mainstream America's self image as a whole, really.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 03:09 (three years ago) link

I mean it doesn't not sound like recent Foxygen

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 03:14 (three years ago) link

(from what I half remember)

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 03:15 (three years ago) link

some thoughts

1. this is the first Killers album i can enjoy without embarrassment
2. this is the best Killers album because it just sounds like the really good Brandon Flowers solo lp
3. they are covering more bases than the dnc with these guests here - and covering Neu! and Can in one song? come on guys - but then i'm pleased Mr Rother gets some royalty cash
4. they're best when they're not being subtle about who they're cribbing from
5. jonathan rado continues to prove himself to be grrrreat
6. given whose sound it's cribbing, calling that song Running Towards A Place is ON THE NOSE GUYS
7. the Triffids / Big Country / U2 / Tears For Fears bits are better than the attempted springsteen bits
8. they still need to remove the anthemic wannabe gospel sections
9. if you'd told me that from the class of 2001ish, in 2020 i'd be enjoying the Killers more than any semi-recent work from The Strokes, Interpol and the rest of the gang, i would have been fairly surprised
10. i've had a lot of coffee but probably stand by all of the above

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 12:41 (three years ago) link

11. not sure how it's possible to have consistently terrible lyrics but good songwriting... but he seems to succeed on every track here

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link

Don’t listen to the lyrics baby we’re a dying breeeeeed

rb (soda), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 12:46 (three years ago) link

12. if you folks fancy more semi anthemic springsteen-ish business (feat Brandon + Rado), that last Alex Cameron LP may be your bag

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 12:47 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmlEM--lmdo

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 12:48 (three years ago) link

they are covering more bases than the dnc with these guests here - and covering Neu! and Can in one song?

I'm relieved I wasn't crazy when I pointed out in my review that I heard "Moonshake."

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link

( i meant sampling obviously - not covering )

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link

Assuming they did sample and not just copy, the audacity of doing so with both Can and Neu! on the same track is something, and perhaps one of the most unexpected places to hear that since the Kanye West album that sampled Can.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 13:13 (three years ago) link

the credited samples on "dying breed" are "moonshake" and "hallogallo", i think they might have layered the motorik beats from both?

9. if you'd told me that from the class of 2001ish, in 2020 i'd be enjoying the Killers more than any semi-recent work from The Strokes, Interpol and the rest of the gang, i would have been fairly surprised

yeah it's bizarre, the last good album before this by any of those sort of bands was comedown machine. really never would have expected they'd have an album as good as this in them

ufo, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link

Never been a fan beyond their first two singles, but I gave this a spin because of all the talk. It was OK but honestly the title track was the only thing that made me look up. And I guess people who like the album don't like the title track? To me it's a kind of perfect '80s movie soundtrack pastiche, like Bryan Adams singing with Tom Tom Club or something.

I saw the Killers at Bonnaroo a few years ago, they put on a good show and the crowd was definitely into it — I was honestly kind of surprised how many songs most people seemed to know. Brandon Flowers is such a weird presence. He totally had star quality on stage, but it was more like late-night talk-show host star quality than rock star quality.

I saw them open for Morrissey in a small club, shortly after the debut was picking up steam. The only thing I remember about it was one of the Killers' amps bursting into flame.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

I love the title track.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

It definitely jumped out at me as significantly different enough in tone or approach or whatever that I was glad to discover it was the last track. Like, I dunno, "Love Makes the World Go Round" on "True Blue" or something. Or sonically akin to Ric Ocasek writing for Broadway.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

Feels like it really hits its '80s stride with "Lightning Fields." "Fire In Bone" mines the same nebulous Rorschach references as the 1975, imo (is that Wang Chung I'm supposed to think of? because that's what I'm hearing tonight.)

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 23:27 (three years ago) link

And yeah, as far as anthemic camp goes, "My God" is the best, and probably would have made a good final track, because how do you beat that?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 23:33 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Probably the first Killers album I've enjoyed all of, though I think Battle Born came close

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:06 (three years ago) link

Can't wait for the remix album (Imploding the Bellagio) and deluxe edition (Imploding Luxor)

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I knew these fuckers would eventually cover it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHn_wrST3_Q

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 October 2020 01:44 (three years ago) link

oh god i could kiss them

this is so good!!
actual studio performance vid here

https://youtu.be/ey_j7-wIo4U

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 October 2020 02:14 (three years ago) link

holy shit, no shame

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 October 2020 02:25 (three years ago) link

In a good way!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 October 2020 02:26 (three years ago) link

Live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey_j7-wIo4U

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 October 2020 02:27 (three years ago) link

I watched this clip 10 times before bed.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 October 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link

sigh, so excellent

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 October 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJHbOJOlp-9/

that new album they were talking about might be on its way even sooner than expected?

ufo, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y020G_d8QHU

new song, an Imploding the Mirage outtake. it's pretty good and interestingly off-kilter for them. really lovely arrangement too

ufo, Friday, 29 January 2021 09:20 (three years ago) link

"there's dignity in calloused hands" lol this guy.

they had me up until the gospel choir

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 29 January 2021 14:05 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I am loving this album. They are best when they embrace anthemic ridiculousness <3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 February 2021 07:18 (three years ago) link

OTM. Though for me it falls in a strange void, great while I'm listening to it but not great enough that I'm actually going to listen to it. I should tell people in my house just to put it on occasionally.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 February 2021 15:12 (three years ago) link

i put some more jameson into my carcass and then posted this to the youtube electic blue cover comments. i think i'm pretty otm:

why is this awesome? it's awesome because it's true. brandon earned that smile at the end. there are more obscure songs to choose which could have shown his taste and erudition concerning forgotten culture and more obvious songs that SCREAMED i'm so 80s in a way that is still in the water today but this is the sweet spot - this is what the airwaves were like at the time. what, brandon was six when this came out?

icehouse fans, don't get me wrong, i'm not saying this is lesser 80s bobka. by way of example, on my computer, inxs' don't change shows up per algorithm on my screen. that's a great 80s song, also one of the best songs of all time. actually the greatest song of all time. brandon should cover that. it should be a constitutional amendment that brandon should cover that. however, anyone knows the greatness of don't change. electric blue, and go with me on this, some people weren't there at the time. or else they forgot. brandon has the genius to know, he knows.

what i'm saying, is some things are great because they are timeless, but timelessness loses out in the end because it belongs to everyone and to all times. this is so of its time, and we are edified when someone brings that time back into the light. thank you brandon for being that light.

a bit effusive, but i stand by my sentiment. duchamp says something something something abt an artist pointing at something and whatever. this was a great thing. it's a great thing.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 21 February 2021 07:04 (three years ago) link

brandon flowers is a cool dork. thrre are nerds, and geeks, but those are defined by their mastery. dorks are enthusiasts, they love love love things. the strokes were music nerds, they killers were music dorks. all hail the dorks.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 21 February 2021 07:20 (three years ago) link

it's like a duchamp readymade, the purest distillation of a readymade in the history of art. there it is, the thing. lookit. lookit the thing, it's awesome. did you lookit before? no, but lookit.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 21 February 2021 08:24 (three years ago) link

are you hiding, somewhere behind those eyes

goddam, that's so sweet and innocent. the best and most overlooked lyric in pop. bam! there it is. brandon delivers it like it was nothing.

also, heart emoticon to alfred, indisputably the greatest 80s stan in the known universe.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 21 February 2021 08:55 (three years ago) link

long story short: this caught my attention and i reacted favorably.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 21 February 2021 08:59 (three years ago) link

also it just occurred to me to look up don't change and the killers so there it is. did the best person in the world, brandon flowers, cover the best song in the world, don't change? it's as obvious as, randomly for example, i wondered if the best person in the world, kermit the frog, also covered the best song in the world, once in a lifetime. yes, they did.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 21 February 2021 15:06 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAqcpc4e6hU

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 February 2021 16:04 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The Youth have reclaimed and repurposed them:

I can’t believe I’m old enough to see younger ppl romanticize my teen years pic.twitter.com/SGCOSkFS1t

— 𝓇𝑜𝓈𝒶♡𝓅𝒶𝓈𝓉𝑒𝓁 (@artetriste) March 8, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link

"mr. brightside" is a deathless song

kind of incredible

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link

It kinda hit me last night that's almost a "Louie Louie" of the 21st century.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 16:11 (three years ago) link


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