What are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?

we can probably figure out what the young people are interested in using only social media

I got into ilx at age 19 because I found the MIA thread fascinating. And I was impressed when I found out some of the posters were pro music journalists. (Embarrassing but true). Today seeing media people talk about stuff behind the scenes has less novelty.

In general, the art of debate on like cultural issues seems, idk, become disenchanting. Maybe just for me. But to get new posters we need better thread to get lurkers hooked.

first thread....is free.

You're going to need upvotes or likes to hook the kids, maybe a heart react.

I used to be under 30 and I used to be interesting, not sure whether at the same time

Stay under 30 as long as you can, strive to be interesting whenever

I feel like k3vin has a predefined idea of “interesting” though tbf

as we all do

probably, and as someone on the wrong side of 30 myself who mostly recycles his same stale viewpoints I’m obviously not holding myself up as some sort of example of what we’re missing. I just think sometimes about the sorts of impassioned discussions we tend to have about the future of the democratic party (actually what I thought this thread was when I made that post), something we’re obviously all very invested in, and then consider the irony given the narrow range of mostly white, middle-aged viewpoints we can offer. obviously I love this place or I wouldn’t be here

The problem is, our culture has been supplanted by politics. Art of any kind has never felt more marginal. There are no subcultures that are not political subcultures. So conversation in general now is not as interesting—everything feels stale or ominous.

I wrote a longish op-ed for a small online journal recently connected to issues in contemporary architecture and design and the kind of cultural politics therein, and, I was happy with it, this is the kind of stuff i’m into, but it felt very irrelevant. And 10 years ago if i wrote a similar piece i would have been more excited to have hammered my ideas on this issue into prose. Now it just feels like—what does this have to do with “real issues”?

I don’t know if this is just a thing with me, and my attention personally drifting toward politics (in the narrow electoral sense). It feels bigger.

And anyway this is a critics’ messageboard. So if the critic is marginalized, or the critic has just become a pundit, then this place is by definition dead.

You'll have to pry criticism and cultural criticism from my cold dead hands.

It will survive as a hobby of the educated elite but it doesn’t feel central to the culture. When I used to lurk, the posting wasn’t necessarily “better,” but the conversations seemed more vital. It felt like something was at stake.

Oh! You mean as a mass cultural experience. Well, it hasn't been the same since (a) Telecommunications Act (b) CIA stopped supporting centers of culture (magazines, museums, journals, etc).

I don’t know if this is just a thing with me, and my attention personally drifting toward politics (in the narrow electoral sense). It feels bigger.

I think about this a lot, too. Also unsure whether it's just me (perhaps a function of getting older?) or a broader cultural development wherein all politics is culture and all culture is politics.

I have noticed myself drifting more towards overtly politicized art/music this year.

When I used to lurk, the posting wasn’t necessarily “better,” but the conversations seemed more vital. It felt like something was at stake.

i think what you're talking about is real, to an extent, but i also think it's heavily affected by getting older.

we've lost a lot of good posters tbf

remember the halcyon days of reading a 4 paragraph nabisco post and thinking or posting "nabisco otm" after it

He was someone who helped me remember that real, careful, and aware listening can really matter. That your life can be deepened. That sounds cheesy but it’s true—he is that kind of writer.

I've been reading more political blogs than film/music ones for at least a dozen years, but this fact doesn't mean anything by itself.

ILM's 'decline' correlates directly to alt-weekly budget cutbacks AFAICT, all the regional editors and columnists had to get jobs outside of journalism supported by escort ads.

Art became highly politicized during the 1930s, too. I suspect the onset of "culture war" in US politics has been a significant driver of the current trend treeship is decrying.

Art has always been highly politicized.

The degree of politicization seems to wax and wane, as societies feel either more or less stable, unified and secure.

Art is inherently political, but "political art" is usually shit.

agreed and would go w “almost always”

Buncha “A Change Is Gonna Come” haters in here.

‘Current events’ art is often bad, not political art.

Good distinction.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgDs8l2XgAEYdzU.jpg

She's otm and struck the right notes.

how is she this good

sorry, off-topic

i never got into ilx politics threads, i think the time i was most invested and reading regularly was c. 2012 election when then-under-30 poster iatee and then-over-30 poster ice cr?m had a fun dialogue going on. it was the golden age of nate silver; i learned a lot and was entertained. in general though the politics threads seemed full of groany cynicical humor

in terms of academic and policy side of politics on the internet more broadly, things are pretty good rn imho. in part this is due to lots of smart academics entering discussions on twitter and becoming more engaged, but also the usual uncredentialed autodidact blogger-type people. there are also a bunch of gen-z kids who migrated to twitter from somewhere on reddit who have a kind of analytic socialist meme style that i enjoy a lot, and learn neat facts about social democracy around the world from.

i read great stuff pretty much every day. it’s more long-term policy stuff and less day-to-day rat-race strategic stuff so ymmv. despite the “culture war” being really big, it’s still possible to block most of it out. the trick is, you can’t just unfollow direct perpetuators (woke ppl and ppl who talk about how woke ppl have gone too far) u also need to unfollow the ppl who constantly post about how exasperated they are with the culture war

AOC rocks

miss you, flopson

aw, thx Al :‘)

fwiw i will never stop posting. i use a content blocker that blocks ilx and many other sites from 8am-10pm PST Mon-Fri to force myself to write my thesis. but im checking this shit at 10:01PM every night, on weekends, and if i wake up early and have time

AOC OTM

AOC is a future President

I've never felt so invested in a politician
which is dangerous I know but wow she's great

Rep. @AOC @RepAOC: "Can we get a commitment from you to submit your calendar dating back to June 16th to this committee?"@USPS Postmaster General DeJoy: "I don't know. I'll check with counsel. I don't want to set a precedent..."

Full video here: https://t.co/FpSllfZzV3 pic.twitter.com/r1uhsFBRVf

— CSPAN (@cspan) August 24, 2020

she's smooth

I would watch an AOC/Katie Porter legislative drama

and she gets the accessibility ramp for the jackson heights post office on the way out her door

*tip of the hat*

she seems v determined to not make needless enemies which I personally cannot relate to at all but is probably smart

Women make automatic enemies by virtue of their gender.

yeah, the tone she took there is the only one that wouldn't be judged SHRILL AND JUDGMENTAL in replay... and likely will anyway!

she speaks to these chuds like the 3AM bartender who is growing increasingly aggravated that the drunk bros won't leave nicely (i have been on the receiving end of this tone of voice; i am observing this admiringly)

i get that women have to hew to a higher standard because of sexism but i still think she's exceptionally good at this in a way i've never seen before and i would be completely thrilled if she ever made it to a presidential ballot. basically this:

I've never felt so invested in a politician
which is dangerous I know but wow she's great

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, August 24, 2020 2:16 PM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

the democrats as they are right now though would never accept aoc as their candidate