quick question about bannings

Suicide. Wasn’t obviously a joke to me as a poster on that thread fwiw.

Happy with the idea of *banning* anyone..

I was wondering about who Boring is as well.

did you think that posters literally believed that whiney wanted to drown Zooey DesChanel and Katy Perry?

No

I mean, whiney has killed lots of people. How could we have known he would draw the line at katy perry?

I'm not changing it to a temp ban, sorry. Maybe another mod will feel differently. Even if it wasn't an actual suggestion to actually commit actual suicide, I'm through with "jeez I was just joking, don't you have a sense of humor?" defenses.

your irises like shimmering river water aren't gonna save you now, California Girl! Yeah, no one is gonna party with you anymore, Katy!!!

ok but wmc, if it was an ABSTRACT point -- like camus' idea that the only serious philosophical question is that of suicide, which is especially relevant at a time when it's hard to know how to morally participate in society -- would THAT be ok?

that's the thing. if it was specifically targeted toward another poster, a permanent ban makes sense. but if not, then idk.

remember, i was all on the side of the mods last time. i'm no insurrectionist.

I'm not changing it to a temp ban, sorry. Maybe another mod will feel differently. Even if it wasn't an actual suggestion to actually commit actual suicide, I'm through with "jeez I was just joking, don't you have a sense of humor?" defenses.

― Scampos Runamuck (WmC)

i'm repeating myself from the other thread, but i want to make it clear that i'm not defending boring's behavior, i don't think it's acceptable, and "only joking" is no defense. immediately banning boring was good moderation.

I nominate sarahell and treeship to be mods

i nominate no thanks lol

ok but wmc, if it was an ABSTRACT point -- like camus' idea that the only serious philosophical question is that of suicide, which is especially relevant at a time when it's hard to know how to morally participate in society -- would THAT be ok?

― treeship., Thursday, August 20, 2020 3:44 PM

are you fucking serious, jesus christ get away from me with your weirdness

Anyway, I'm totally ok if other mods decide to shorten the ban.

i am serious. i think he might have been making a point like that -- like a resigned shrug, "we're stuck."

but also, it doesn't matter to me. so i'll get off the topic.

Camus and I share a birthday, can I at least be a mod of ILAFL

also my co-revivor of the ILAFL board, nilmar honorata de silva also voiced his support for me receiving mod powers of said sub-board.

WmC otm, don’t know why people have decided this is their hill, but seriously log off, you and we will be better for it.

we must imagine Sisyphus to be happy

I don't really know how sub-board moderation works so I don't know if I can make it happen for you, sarahell, but tbh I have no objections.

I'm totally ok if other mods decide to shorten the ban.

I posted in the Admin Log Watch thread but I'll post here too - I've checked out the context, and while I honestly couldn't tell if it was poorly-rendered gallows humour or a seriously aggressive post (it was a bad post either way), I'm in favour of this not being a permaban. Unless they're an old user in a new name, they don't have much history here and most of their posts are perfectly innocuous, so a temp ban seems preferable.

You are now banned from ILX.

WmC otm, don’t know why people have decided this is their hill, but seriously log off, you and we will be better for it.

― beef stannin’ (gyac)

my hill to do what now?

tryin' not to do that, gyac. tryin' not to.

Went and read the offensive post, and really, you all. It definitely lived up to their username.

the Boring part. perhaps not so much the Maryland part.

Kinda feel like opting for flippancy re: suicide at a time when emotional/mental well-being is at a general low ebb is playing with fire, whatever your intent. WmC made the right call.

kinda feel like opting for the use of the colloquialism "playing with fire" while there are literally huge fires raging through parts of the US and the air quality is garbage because of the smoke is also insensitive ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3iGZcQBkYs

basically I am in favor of being sensitive and empathetic to the variety of issues affecting other ilxors, but ILX should not have a zero-tolerance policy for gallows humor

Nor do I, nor does it.

(Incoherent; trying again)

I agree, but it's kind of a moot point inasmuch as a zero-tolerance policy for gallows humor isn't a thing.

yeab but it's pretty easy to see how this place could go that way

short posting history warrants 3-day temp ban, end of story imo. private yellow card would be good for a regular?

on the other thread stet mentioned changing the admin log so it no longer says "permanently" for all bans, I think this is a good idea.

random thought: can't mods now edit objectionable posts to make the text hidden?

xpost No. No, it really isn't.

i've luckily never struggled with depression, but i have many friends and family members who have. ilx has documented at least one suicide attempt and plenty of suicidal ideation. there is a way to do gallows humor without crossing a line which should be pretty obvious to most intelligent people.

kinda feel like opting for the use of the colloquialism "playing with fire" while there are literally huge fires raging through parts of the US

FP'd you for racism

random thought: can't mods now edit objectionable posts to make the text hidden?

― sleeve, Thursday, August 20, 2020 8:11 PM (yesterday)

very good random thought!

if you flag post on one thread and then flag the same poster for another post on a different thread, does that count as two flags or just one?

it's just one flag per poster for each flaggable poster

This was the weakest episode of The Dekalog imo

xps you hated that money thread too huh

I know it only counts once but there's a therapeutic benefit in going again.

not the money thread. not a "Big" Deal thOugh. eNough others will flag, i'm sure.

lol nv

Ah, BElieve yR otm yet agaiN, hArbl THY words ring true