"The August 2020 US Politics Thread is highly thought of, but nobody likes me. It can only be my personality. That's all."

He doesn’t think that anymore, and his conversion story is getting a lot of buzz. It debuted at No. 8 on the New York Times best-seller list, helped in part by an attention-grabbing op-ed in the New York Times, and he’s been featured on National Public Radio, the New Yorker, the Ezra Klein podcast, and other outlets that Republicans consider the heart of the liberal media establishment.

A whistlestop tour of all the marks who'll lap up a conversion story every four years.

They GOP convention could call up the cops that shot Breonna Taylor.

i agree with the people who said upthread that jill biden seems cool. just a regular, hardworking person who wants to contribute to society. her husband's a little loopy though, i'm sorry

Is it too early or too late to dunk on all the idiots defending Sandman as just some misguided teen instead of a bad actor?

i think liberals, the left, and those inclined to vote biden of all other political persuasions, would do well to ignore that whole thing. the reason he is up there is to bait people into attacking him.

The Stevens interview makes shrewd points and baffling ones. William F. Buckley, Jr. didn't "evolve." In 1986 he was calling for HIV patients to get tattooed.

the idea that buckley was a moderate is one of the most cherished myths of the gop though, you know that

I love Jill Biden, she's super cool and dedicated and she has to be pretty special considering her ex husband appears to still be sore about their divorce 45 years after it happened.

"Is it too early or too late to dunk on all the idiots defending Sandman as just some misguided teen instead of a bad actor?"

are people doing this who aren't MAGA idiots?

if guys like Powell just became Democrats they’d lose any media clout they have

He's both a bad actor and a misguided teen.

Colin Powell has not been a Republican for a long time. What's true is that he's a general and what's true is that Joe Biden as President is going to have a foreign policy pretty continuous with Obama's, which is going to involve generals, so, truth in advertising.

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:49 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah, he endorsed Obama in 2008 and 2012 and Hillary in 2016. It seemed like he was a continuation of the "strong on defense" montage (with Chuck Hagel, Brett McGurk, Marie Yovanovitch, etc.) rather than another example of "I'm a Republican, but I'm crossing over this time."

Whether Powell's voice in particular is one that the Democrats should be elevating is another question. But I assume the calculation is that viewers see him as an upstanding member of the national-security establishment rather than as a war criminal.

they should get mcmaster up there to talk about what a lunatic trump is

"Is it too early or too late to dunk on all the idiots defending Sandman as just some misguided teen instead of a bad actor?"

are people doing this who aren't MAGA idiots?

― akm, Wednesday, August 19, 2020 10:21 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Lol, let me tell you about a little site called www.ilxor.com.

i mean, i doubt anyone here was sympathetic to the band cackling maga teens. some loser like, for instance, me, might have said that it was a bad look to be putting dumb teens in the spotlight like that.

there were definitely people here actively defending this little shit & expressing outrage over his treatment

a whole lot of (white ofc) liberals are going to want to pretend they didn’t totally fall for the backlash-to-the-backlash now

He's just a dumb teen speaking at the GOP convention. He never wanted the spotlight.

i don't think kids should be put on blast, to be honest. cards on the table.

Chuds love that kid, and were falling all over themselves on Social Media 'beat the man and got rich' with his lawsuits, even though it seems he's ultimately only getting the smallest amount of fuck off money (maybe not even that) in every case.

as much as I hated his dumb smug little face, I felt a little weird about it all the day it was happening.

of course the next few months of media appearances and lawsuits and his shitty mom or whatever kind of gave the game away

Eh, fuck him (though probably more accurately, his family). They sued the Washington Post for defamation, which is to say, they sued the Washington Post for calling him a maga asshole rather than just some misguided teen. But to accept an invitation to a maga asshole convention? He had an out, but he is opting in.

His smirk gave the game away.

Cards on the table.

amazing who gets the luxury of just being a dumb kid who doesn’t know what he’s doing

frankly I support the richard spencer treatment

or maybe bf skinner

or Hellraiser 1

just saw that AJ Delgado (one of Trump's dedicated media surrogates who I think got impregnated by a staffer?) is now pretty staunchly anti-Trump on Twitter. that's one of the most confusing/infuriating things about these assholes, it's not just liberals and CNN who think the president is an idiot, it's literally everyone who ever worked for him

ew, jason miller was the father.

i've never heard of delgado, but her wikipedia entry she seems like one of those bloodsuckers that is only "staunchly anti-trump" now because that seems more personally favorable to her future prospects for power and money

because what else is there?

if you ever saw her on TV you'd probably remember her, she attended the Jim Jordan school of "just yell over any follow up questions"

idk it's still shocking to me that 43% of this country has a strict devotion to a guy who literally nobody will say anything good about unless its for career purposes. like the sum total of all these books from ex-admins/guys who got arrested for helping him commit crimes is just "yeah he's exactly who you see on the TV, there's nothing else to him" and yet an increasing faction of the GOP is all "he's playing the long game to bust a global pedophile ring which coincidentally includes every celebrity that ever said a bad thing about Trump"

Even Jason Miller, I could have sworn that asshole got off the train, but hopped right back on when he was invited.

a sizable portion of that 43% will go down in flames with him to the very end, no matter what. never admit mistakes! never!!

i knew it would get ugly and anticipated the heightened and more explicit racism, but i never would have guessed that so many of them would also become Qanon people. i mean holy shit, that is a very, very strange turn of events

xp and hope hicks. she managed to get out of there...and then she came right back a year later!!! wtf

I've said it before but 'opposes Trump but still identifies as a Republican in the year 2020' = 'I will never ever ever trust you or your intentions even a little bit'. Anyone on the left side of the fence who deviates from that position is a sucker and a future mark imho.

i take a harder line. for me, if you ever supported trump, after, say, august 2015, you're an unredeemable piece of shit and a demonstrably poor judge of character. trump's deal was very, very, VERY clear by august 2015

Calling for a boycott of Goodyear (headquartered in Akron Ohio) doesn’t seem like the smartest move to me but I guess that’s why he’s the president.

xp i cannot even believe such people exist, not even the ones in my family who no longer support trump.

xp

i mean, that's why the 2016 GOP primary was so crazy - it was also clear to much of the GOP that trump was a horrible piece of shit! they temporarily tore themselves into pieces, trying to deal with him. then, they got in line

xxxpost Well yeah, but mine is a general formulation I'd apply even to the Never Trumpers. Who, it seems, object to his propensity for saying the quiet part loud more than anything.

'We can be racist, but do we have to be so brash about it?'

THIN SKINNED MUCH, MISTER PRESIDENT

ffs

I will honestly say that I hope that Sandman kid dies in a fucking fire. Him and his family and all those other kids who were with him are scum and deserve nothing but scorn and pain.

his twitter profile pic is him and Don Jr

i take a harder line. for me, if you ever supported trump, after, say, august 2015, you're an unredeemable piece of shit and a demonstrably poor judge of character. trump's deal was very, very, VERY clear by august 2015

There's no justification for identifying as or voting for a Republican after 1980.

Unless you're white and rich, in which case you're simply backing the people who more reliably safeguard your interests.

i mean, i doubt anyone here was sympathetic to the band cackling maga teens

Are you fucking kidding me with this shit!? you were one of the main dudes on the capn save-a-fash squad when this happened!

xp Hey now, maybe you're just racist and/or hate women, more solid reasons to support the GOP