absolutely, that was their whole thing. can't remember another group who did that successfully, apart from blur for a bit maybe
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link
as with the fannies/big star, pavement/the fall and gene/the smiths, if you liked them then the similarities seemed insignificant. i still get pachinko and kubrick in town in my head from time to time.
― neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link
This here stuff was my jam back in the day. I barely had 10p to rub together let alone spend on quirky-looking CD singles so I must have absorbed half of these via mixtape, or retrospectively once Napster etc came out and I wanted to spend a weekend downloading a Velocette b-side.
― kinder, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link
xp. i am a huge fannies fan and never minded the indebtedness to big star (I heard teenage fanclub years before big star so it was a bit of a surprise when I first heard the latter)
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link
So, that Quietus review I did of Super Sonics inadvertantly led to another piece of mine for them, and frankly I was thrilled to be able to do this -- a full feature interview Johnny, Chris and Matt from Menswear
https://thequietus.com/articles/29097-menswear-nuisance-review-anniversary
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 October 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link
Heh, I always figured the Wire influence was secondhand and the concept of Daydreamer was "let's write an Elastica song".
― Cabo Weibo (卡波微博) (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link
Curious track listing.
There's definitely a good compilation in stuff from the time that wasn't Brit Pop - Seefeel, Bark Psychosis, Butterfly Child, Insides, Spoonfed Hybrid, Disco Inferno ... and I'd have included Pram.
Perhaps my timing is wonky, though.
― djh, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link
idly wondering if this is the only substantial* genre** where the only things of interest to be said about it are extra-musical - the sociopolitical context, the business model etc
* not the best word but reaching for "as opposed to micro-genres"** another wriggly and not-quite-right word but hey
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 20:24 (one year ago) link
I really enjoyed Marcello Carlin’s then play long entries on the Britpop years but tgf I kind of like this music. Feel like there’s a lot to say about the great escape but I don’t particularly like that album.
― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 22:40 (one year ago) link
I love The Great Escape and MC was fantastic on it.
I tried writing about it - informally but lengthily - before. On the Blur forum. And scared everyone away.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 22:43 (one year ago) link
I want to add that the brain worm I posted tonight isn't really predicated on liking or not liking (some of) the music - I don't really but people do and that's fine
But something I'm not quite articulating to myself even about the metaness of the genre, assuming nostalgia and small c conservatism can be meta
Brit, such an ugly word and world
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 22:46 (one year ago) link
I wonder if someone who's not British might have something fresh to say about the music? Here in Canada it was received without a lot of the contextual trappings, but probably didn't seem as "exotic" as it might have to the rare American who was tuned in past a handful of Oasis hits.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:03 (one year ago) link
From my 10-12 year old vantage point it was completely invisible in the US at the time apart from Oasis. Blur seemed genuinely very strange to me until “Song 2” came about.
― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link
Sometimes I check out also-fans/stragglers like Baby Bird and I’m like “wow this is extremely British”
― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link
also-rans
― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link
There was actually a small Britpop scene in Toronto, a handful of bands that were inspired both by the contemporary UK acts and the veteran bands that they emulated. A local group named Admiral got notable press here but only seem to have released a couple of EPs in 1996 and 1997.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 19:23 (one year ago) link
I heard (the London!) Suede and early Blur far more often on my college radio station than 1995-1996 Blur-Suede-Oasis.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 19:25 (one year ago) link
Toronto still seemed to be living in the Britpop era when I lived there in the 2000s. TBF it was the more the Blur/Suede/Pulp/Mod end of things rather than Oasis. I remember hearing a CBC documentary about Britpop where they mentioned how Chris from Menswe@r would corner every customer ever at the Good Mixer and tell them about his "new band Menswear" and I was like, yep, that happened to me too (although I only popped in because it was next to Mega City)
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 20:34 (one year ago) link
It's quite funny and all
https://neilk.substack.com/p/on-oasis-the-gallaghers-d4abcb889d59?fbclid=IwAR1rZKrpZpBWLLTRRzeJ9u5U6qifVFU94D1qM3sH5PLZXG8JxJtL3ZMYq-Q
As much as I hate lads rock the counter argument would be: did Britpop stop anything from happening? Trip-hop, dance music, etc. All charted. The music weeklies were dying too and they didn't dominate the coverage.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 12:05 (one year ago) link
very little if anything to disagree with there, but also I was driving the other day and Rock & Roll Star came on the radio and I found myself enjoying it a great deal.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 12:21 (one year ago) link
Saw one of their videos sitting in a cafe a couple of weeks ago and it was fine. I wouldn't buy it. Think I'm more inclined to think in a "right, this ok thing came out of this abhorrent culture, what next?" than aping bog standard middle-class outrage at it.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 13:43 (one year ago) link
it is high time for a re-assesment of the Britpop movement
Posted 10th May 2001.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 13:56 (one year ago) link
A few months before that fateful day that two planes etc.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 14:03 (one year ago) link