1988: The Year When Sequels Came Out to Shine!

Besides, it should be clear that nothing released by Criterion belongs on this list.

Decades of grumbling about how Hong Kong gets no love from Criterion because its cinema is unabashedly trashy and joyful and now poor Jackie doesn't get to go out to play with Ernest Saves Christmas anymore because he's got Criterion cooties :(

oh yeah decline ii is fucking amazing, sic otm

Phantasm II towers above this pile of shite

i wrote a still-incomplete essay about friday the 13th part vii for a reading that a few ilxors were at, one of whom even watched the movie afterward and didn't enjoy it (lol). but it's my favorite friday the 13th movie; i used to find it boring because i only watched the friday the 13th movies in long marathons and part vii really suffers coming after the unbridled comic book energy of part vi, it's moody and dour and a little boring and in the series it's the most cynical about being a friday the 13th movie this side of part v: a new beginning, jason weaving a totally nonsensical path around crystal lake (to the point where you suspect he's capable of teleportation), just mowing through people who barely have any relation to the plot

the thing is tina is great. i love tina. she's the reason the new blood is the friday the 13th movie with the greatest depth, whether intentional or not. she's obviously modeled after carrie but is so her own character that i never make the association on purpose. still feeling residual guilt over (accidentally, psychically) murdering her father when she was a kid, relentlessly gaslit and emotionally abused by her psychiatrist, her feelings ignored/feared by her mother, she awakens jason and he becomes an agent of her unconscious, the part of her mind that is always screaming and wishing that everyone would just die. tina's brief psychic flashes of people being murdered are among the most horrifying shots in the series, especially when she's driving down a dirt road and sees jason skewering her mother in the center of it, a total nightmare invading reality. that these visions of death don't actually match up visually with the deaths in the movie actually makes it better and sadder; tina knows what's going to happen but is powerless to stop it because she'll never know when or how it'll happen. also there's a dreamy late-'80s softness to the look of the movie, like crystal lake is wrapped up in a big wool sweater. there are things about it that i'd change, mostly to do with the ending (which there's actually a better version of but it only exists as grainy workprint footage) and the mpaa's butchering of the kills (even though they actually improved the famous sleeping bag kill by requesting cuts until it was down to one shot; jason whips the body against the tree so many times in the original edit that it gets goofy). but my love for tina overcomes them all!!!!

Sleepaway Camp 2

wait no, Hellraiser 2

i watched sleepaway camp 2 the other night and it's the best

pamela springsteen is incredible in both sequels, so much contagious glee in the murder scenes

Little known trivia: Wilfred Brimley was only 34 during the filming of Cocoon: The Return.

he was also 7'4

sequels released in 1988. Banner year. Banner year.

I see what you did there.

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wow

decline 2 is amazing i can't deny it

Decline II is streaming free on Pluto TV f y'all's i

sorry i missed this thread, wow what a lineup.

is short circuit 2 the one where Johnny 5 falls under bad influences and joins an urban gang called "Los Locos" ? ugh

amazingly, SC2 may be the only one of these i actually saw as a VHS rental. and somehow the only other ones i've seen are Outlaw of Gor (thanks to MST3K - it's dreck) and Return of the Killer Tomatoes (which isn't as good as the first, but at least has some goofy charm, and George Clooney).

also lol at The Dirty Dozen getting a sequel called "The Fatal Mission." spoilers for the original film but that seems a bit redundant.

i've heard good things about Eight Men Out, kind of impressed they kept the franchise going that long, though obviously eight movies in the cast is looking a little bit ragged around the edges.

is short circuit 2 the one where Johnny 5 falls under bad influences and joins an urban gang called "Los Locos" ? ugh

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it's also the second movie where Fisher Stevens played an Indian man whose last name inexplicably changed between films

I'm tempted to poll the Los Locos cheer, but who am I kidding, of course "kick your balls into ou-ter space" would win.