here comes the AFRICAN GIANT / Burna Boy (2019)

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listening again and there is a second diddy interjection that i completely missed the first time through

honestly sheeran is a far less obnoxious vocal presence than martin, if some british white guy had to show up he'd be far from my first choice but the result would probably have been more tolerable

ufo, Friday, 14 August 2020 08:58 (three years ago) link

I told Burna I did a song with Coldplay
Next thing I know he got a song with Coldplay

triggercut, Friday, 14 August 2020 09:10 (three years ago) link

Very good album. I can't imagine I'll end up liking it as much as African Giant, but that's not a knock, AG is genius.

I was nervous about the guests...rightly so. Martin does suck, but tbrr I don't know if that song would be much better with [yr fav] on it--though thanks to dog latin, I did briefly wonder if Chronixx could have made it work--it has my least favorite Burna vocals too. I have never liked Sauti Sol very much, so those two back to back are a serious lull for me, curious if Sol fans like that one more. It's not ruinous, but the absolute wrong Stormzy shows up, all slow and moody, a missed opportunity though I quite like the women singing backup on that (see also Bank On It; swapping out all the guests for women would be an interesting exercise). Still, there's a happy surprise: Naughty by Nature sound kinda leftfield great, and as ufo mentioned Diddy's presence is not too distracting.

Anyway, even if you outright delete all the guest tracks (though no need to cut N'Dour), you end up with a strong collection, at least on par with Outside, maybe a little better once I listen more.

rob, Friday, 14 August 2020 13:22 (three years ago) link

yeah i'm not sure this feels like an endless parade of hits in the way that african giant did but it's still very good. i like the sauti sol track a lot, i've only heard a few of their tracks before but they've always been enjoyable. "naughty by nature" works despite its weird concept and i completely agree about stormzy being a wasted opportunity. even ignoring martin i think "monsters you made" is the worst track on this

ufo, Friday, 14 August 2020 13:28 (three years ago) link

i looove that synth outro in "way too big"

ufo, Friday, 14 August 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

even ignoring martin i think "monsters you made" is the worst track on this

otm, I almost wish he'd leaned all the way into the "message song" vibe and gotten Bono

rob, Friday, 14 August 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link

Is Monsters You Made a deliberate Dirty Diana lift or just a coincidence?

Matt DC, Friday, 14 August 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

it's deliberate, mj is a credited writer on it

ufo, Friday, 14 August 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link

all the select tracks i've tried so far are quite good. looking forward to digging in deeper.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 15 August 2020 03:11 (three years ago) link

Album is pleasant and competent, it maintains nice vibes, but it is seriously lacking innovation, energy and hits, and good feats as it has been said. He's not in front of these songs as he was in Outside / African Giant. 23 is one of the few standouts along with Wonderful, Onyeka and the too-short Alarm Clock (one could dream of a free-jazzy / funky Burna Boy album). I hate that generic trumpeting party sound in Way Too Big, it ruins the song. I don't think I'll spin this a lot.

Nabozo, Saturday, 15 August 2020 06:24 (three years ago) link

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/gq-hype/article/burna-boy-interview-2020

weird sequencing here leads to a smattering of garbage tracks throughout imo but there's a lot to enjoy. African Giant never quite clicked for me; this may make me go back to it.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 10:34 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I think I've landed on an 8-song version of this that I like quite a lot if not as much as African Giant (the other 7 range from not-bad-but-unremarkable to terrible):

Bebo
Wonderful
Onyeka (Baby)
Comma
No Fit Vex*
23
Wetin Dey Sup
Bank On It

* Spotlight on this, which is really good and doesn't sound much like past BB. I could dig a groovier, sunnier, wavier set that sounded like this and Wonderful.

So basically cut everything with a feature (sometimes Naughty By Nature sounds like goofy fun to me and sometimes like an awkward misfire), plus I find that opening run kind of ponderous. If you add Money Play and Odogwu, you'd have a strong back-to-back album imo.

rob, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link

(one could dream of a free-jazzy / funky Burna Boy album)

I would also be here for this (pretty improbable) imaginary album. I rewatched his Tiny Desk last night, and it would be cool to hear him collaborate with a band.

rob, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

i've decided twice as tall suffers from a lack of kel-p vibes

whiney on the moon (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link

i like twice as tall a lot an am not clear why people dislike it!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link

it lacks edge
not bad though

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

it's still good, i just prefer the sonic palette of african giant a bit more (and the guest stars on that album blend in a lot better)

whiney on the moon (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link

I def wouldn't say I dislike it. In fact, "weird sequencing here leads to a smattering of garbage tracks throughout imo but there's a lot to enjoy" is really close to how I would put it!

African Giant is a personal fave and part of why is that right off the bat I loved it and couldn't stop playing it, so this inevitably feels a little disappointing

rob, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

"Naughty by Nature" rules, improbably

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 20:32 (three years ago) link

my fav guest spot on the album by a long shot

whiney on the moon (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link

smattering of garbage tracks

i don't disagree with you here but it's interesting that opinions on what constitutes the garbage tracks vary so widely.
FWIW, I skip alarm clock, way too big, comma, Bank on it and the godawful chris martin feature which i still have not heard all the way through yet

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 20:54 (three years ago) link

the pat boone (?!?!?!?!) sample combined with timbo/djds production and a solid vocal turn from n'dour make 'level up' the most unlikely song i love this year

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link

Yeah might be letting my “the guests are unwelcome” thesis overdetermine my ears on that one

rob, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link

Just played this from the start and enjoyed all three opening tracks and NBN...probably just need to let the whole thing marinate a little

rob, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 23:31 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

new track in response to the Lekkimassacre:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68rvZWARzew
Burna Boy • 20 10 20

Welcome to Nonrock (breastcrawl), Sunday, 1 November 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

...the Lekki massacre...

Welcome to Nonrock (breastcrawl), Sunday, 1 November 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUtZB0foy_4

just sayin, Thursday, 17 December 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link

that’s “No Be Water” by Burna with Praiz and Vector.

it’s actually a 2015 release in the so-called Hennessy Artistry series (Hennessy Nigeria paying artists to come up with a booze-friendly anthem basically). the year before they had paired up Wizkid and 2Baba for “Dance Go (Eau de Vie)”.

two months pass...

burna winning the grammy for "Best Global Music" over anoushka shankar and bebel gilberto is a strange sort of victory

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 14 March 2021 22:30 (three years ago) link

calls for a new thread! here comes the AFRICAN GRAMMY / Burna Boy (2021)

Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 15 March 2021 06:57 (three years ago) link

burna frankly should have been in the best rock album imo

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 March 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link

The Grammys are so bad and hated even Drake knows what's up: "I think we should stop allowing ourselves to be shocked every year by the disconnect between impactful music and these awards. And just accept that what once was the highest form of recognition may no longer matter to the artists that exist now and the ones that come after."

At least we'll be spared more cringey lyrics from BB about losing now

rob, Monday, 15 March 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link

At least we'll be spared more cringey lyrics from BB about losing now

be careful what you wish for

Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 15 March 2021 14:47 (three years ago) link

I did specify "losing"

rob, Monday, 15 March 2021 14:51 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

the brand-new single is highly enjoyably brash:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h81_XRvVxQc

(no Grammys were mentioned during the making of this track*)

produced by Chopstix

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 29 April 2021 19:35 (two years ago) link

*thought he might be mentioning 'piano' tho, but no: no dey sweet, I be Alomo Bitters

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 29 April 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link

yooo that bangs

rob, Friday, 30 April 2021 00:43 (two years ago) link

nice one!

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 30 April 2021 08:03 (two years ago) link

there's a video now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKv5CBr-kKo

this is such a great style for him, really thrilled by this

rob, Friday, 30 April 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link

yah i think i like this more than anything off his last album.

video pays homage to some classic busta rhymes videos.

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Friday, 30 April 2021 21:48 (two years ago) link

yah i think i like this more than anything off his last album.

I hadn't quite had that thought yet, but I think you're otm

I also just noticed this only 2:16, which is why I'm like "wha?" every time it ends

rob, Friday, 30 April 2021 22:00 (two years ago) link

i liked twice as tall on the whole but yah this is in a different zone

funny tho my fav song off that album was also about ~2:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny4curtenuk

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Friday, 30 April 2021 22:24 (two years ago) link

ftr “KIlometre” is an extra 17 secs on streaming

rob, Friday, 30 April 2021 23:31 (two years ago) link

this is so so def. hope the next album will be called Grammy Off My Chest and will sound accordingly, like “Kilometre” does

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 1 May 2021 12:29 (two years ago) link

extremely pleased to wake up with this in my head. I've never felt so good about the metric system

rob, Saturday, 1 May 2021 13:11 (two years ago) link

...and British spelling!

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 1 May 2021 13:15 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

"Question" with Don Jazzy is really nice. Not a banger like Kilometre, but some sly production moves:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rOer3k2DWg

rob, Tuesday, 24 August 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link

had been feeling like he was spinning his wheels a bit but this is wonderful

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 August 2021 05:20 (two years ago) link

yeah I'm liking it even more on second listen (though dammit I forgot about the annoying explosion in the middle of the video)

rob, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 13:04 (two years ago) link


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