LADS
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link
it's all kicking off
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link
UK politics threads are like so many demos I've been to in the past 10 years; there's this ritual.
You've got the various factions of protesters, the nice quaker/Green types with their organised signs saying 'down with this sort of thing', the Sisters Uncut who are really well prepared, and have a loudspeaker and are reading out name of the murdered or a list of the demands, and of course a few tankies in black bandanas and hoodies with anarchy symbols on them, who are milling about menacingly and occasionally shouting "ACAB!" or "Riot!!!" or whatever.
And some copper will come over, and start trying to tell people to take it easy, look, all the coppers are on overtime now and want to go home, could the demo maybe wind it up (and he will 100% say in the inquest afterwards or whatever, that he was genuinely trying to calm things down) - but one of the Sisters will kiss her teeth at him, and the hoodies will make pig noises and start oinking or whatever, and the cop will go beserk and just start telling us we're all scum. So the hoodies start throwing plastic bottles at the cops and taunting them - and BOOM! 500 cops appear out of nowhere, start pushing the crowd back, the tankies smash in the window of Foxton's, there's a million photographers snapping photos of it, and suddenly you're in a kettle and it's got *nasty*.
People will look at descriptions of that situation, and say, "no one wants to go to demos any more, the fucken tankies make it unsafe!!!" When, really, the reason people stop going to demos is because of the *cops*.
― Branwell with an N, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 11:02 (three years ago) link
Now do the US Pol threads
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 11:15 (three years ago) link
(xp) And now imagine some American cop who thinks he's some kind of maverick hardass showing up on one of those demos.
― Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 11:30 (three years ago) link
This is coming true.
lets set some realistic goals here : jokes banned by 2016. sex banned by 2020. a cop in every household by 2025— wint (@dril) August 28, 2013
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 11:33 (three years ago) link
two rights do make a wrong it turns out
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 11:34 (three years ago) link
Haha I don’t go in US politics threads, they are all ~brrrristling with guns~
Calz at least has to get near me to have a stab at me!
― Branwell with an N, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 11:50 (three years ago) link
US politics threads are all just cops with the occasional bemused 'tankie' piping up to ask wth is going on in here
― ||||||||, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 11:52 (three years ago) link
Nobody on here is a fucking tankie and someone using the term unironically is the sure sign of a moron.
― caută singur (gyac), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 11:54 (three years ago) link
I'm a Maoist now
― The Scampos of Young Werther (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 11:55 (three years ago) link
If there is any person on this thread using the term “tankie” unironically, it isn’t me, soooo...
― Branwell with an N, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 11:58 (three years ago) link
Thank you for your critical support gyac but that BBC thing on the economy I posted this morning is just like North Korean TV.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 12:12 (three years ago) link
I picture North Korean TV being a bit more respectful of its audience than BBC news tbh
― The Scampos of Young Werther (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 12:14 (three years ago) link
xp all my support for you is critical and I don’t watch things you post
― caută singur (gyac), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 12:18 (three years ago) link
Critical support keeps me honest thanks
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 12:24 (three years ago) link
north korean tv's audience: chairmans alph, kim jong-un
― mark s, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 12:25 (three years ago) link
s/b chairsman
And his (hot) sister xp
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 12:26 (three years ago) link
And Trump. What a triumvirate, eh?
― caută singur (gyac), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 12:26 (three years ago) link
Very upset by this
Judd Trump that is.
― Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 12:28 (three years ago) link
Kim Jong-Un, pintman
― The Scampos of Young Werther (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 12:28 (three years ago) link
I could murder a sandwich rn
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 12:34 (three years ago) link
Monte Kris-to?
― The Scampos of Young Werther (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 12:35 (three years ago) link
Seems relevant:
if you call people tankies in 2020 I'm gonna assume you're an odious daily beast type and that's a lot worse— Greg Афиногенов (@athenogenes) August 12, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link
At this stage I am unconvinced that there are any members of the Labour Party on this thread.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link
They don't let Maoists in tbf
― The Scampos of Young Werther (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link
I’m still a member but that is just cause I am dilatory, I also still have Netflix which is also shite
― wins, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link
wins is why TUCA & BERTIE didn't get a second season >:(
― mark s, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link
Why, I’m still paying for the garbage!
― wins, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link
netflix is worse than the labour party but it's close
― ||||||||, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link
Labour's been shit since the early 50s tho, Netflix can't compete with that
― The Scampos of Young Werther (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link
Reevesy & Starmzy is a massive downgrade on Rick and Morty
― calzino, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link
that cartoon with repellent imagery versus the party of Nick Thomas-Symonds
― calzino, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link
Proof again that the only good Labour knight of the realm was Cripps. pic.twitter.com/cWyBvUJQqs— Mr Demos of Pnyx (@gem_ste) August 12, 2020
― calzino, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link
You get thrown out of the party for saying stuff like that nowadays
― The Scampos of Young Werther (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 20:59 (three years ago) link
Full Labour email including the bits about the Panorama settlements (from image 2) and how the leadership expects people to fall in line/not talk about that. Not that shocking, but have a read.Toxic nonsense about behaving respectful and "comradely" after 4y of wrecking Corbyn. pic.twitter.com/qsQEyOrPFz— i am looking respectfully 👁️ (@miriksmit) August 12, 2020
Cancel culture out of control
― plax (ico), Thursday, 13 August 2020 08:16 (three years ago) link
Full credit to @ejhchess for spotting this, but there’s a new ‘grass roots’ crowdfunder in town and it’s got some big supporters. pic.twitter.com/iA5Aeq5WKD— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) September 28, 2020
The attempt to start a US-style PAC and Starmer’s recent round of Please Sir May I Have Some More letters to donors makes me wonder what the current state of the membership is. The last update I can find is from April and iirc there’s probably a six month lag between people cancelling their direct debits and officially being taken off the rolls.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 08:20 (three years ago) link
NEC elections will be telling I think. Could be the final nail down n the coffin for the left (except it never is, ofc)
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 09:39 (three years ago) link
This is a positive. I hope the few other left-wing unions stop their contributions too.
if Unite's serious about this, it could be a very good thing. There's no shortage of renters' unions etc that need the money and would no doubt make more effective use of it https://t.co/WL0lcZKdTh— tom (@malaiseforever) October 7, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 10:00 (three years ago) link
some predictably risible responses
centrists: ffs! get behind your club.
Ayesha: it's only because Kieth has stamped out anti-Semitism
― calzino, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 10:05 (three years ago) link
Yes lol always another view.
Fuck ‘em. They’re a bloody millstone round Labour’s neck anyway. Less influence they have, the better.If it weren’t for those puffed up Little-Ponders we’d be in the second term of a David Miliband Labour government right now.— Mitch Benn🇬🇧🇪🇺 (@MitchBenn) October 6, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 10:06 (three years ago) link
i also read a bunch of comments, i'd say it's depressing but idk, let the cunts have their Tories Who Like Nish Kumar Party to themselves
― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 10:14 (three years ago) link
Centrists only respect money even though they all hate the unions, they still want their funding an unconditional support.
― seumas milm (gyac), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 10:17 (three years ago) link
it's not like there's a shortage of centrists and assorted Old Lab Trot-haters *in* the unions
― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 10:18 (three years ago) link
Unions fundamentally need influence and know that affiliation to the Labour Party is the primary way to achieve that. They also know that they are better off with Labour - any Labour Party - in power than they are with the Tories, which is why they've backed centrist candidates in the past. If they continued to pay out during the Blair years they're not going to stop now, even Unite's move is predominantly an attempt to gain leverage at a time when the party is hardly flush with money.
There's a double whammy here as well, they know that if they cut off funding then they leave Labour more dependent on wealthy individual donors whose aims may be contradictory to theirs, and ceding the playing field to them in the process.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 11:58 (three years ago) link
Well Starmer was already courting wealthy donors and then has gone back to begging members for money/recently departed members to join, so situation might not be as rosy for him as all that.
― seumas milm (gyac), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link
I suspect the main objection isn't cutting off the money, it's offering a financial lifeline to the kind of grass-roots / youth activism the PLP is absolutely determined to stamp out.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 12:50 (three years ago) link
"If they continued to pay out during the Blair years they're not going to stop now"
There is also a before and after Corbyn too and I think it would be good for other left-wing unions that backed RLB to look at reducing or cutting funds to Lab altogether. A lot of the membership that have stopped subs know what that cash is going into now.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link