i enjoyed this show.
this is not unique to this show but it was very blatant in it: the almost sci-fi feeling of a show that is set in the past but was obviously written in the present by people with present perspectives. basically the way that women, people of color, and other minorities talked about their identities the way someone from 2020 would talk about their identities if they time-traveled back to the 1930s, instead of the way a person actually from the 1930s would.
to be clear, i don't think this is necessarily bad, i'm not eager to watch a show where people are throwing the n-word around constantly, but it was particularly prevalent and not subtle. it took me out of the reality of the show, but this seemed almost intentional.
― na (NA), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 18:22 (two years ago) link
I cringed at one point when Perry talked about "doubling-down" on something, a phrase I don't remember being used in such a context until after the poker boom of the mid 2000s. It seems an odd anachronism in a show that has taken such expensive pains to create a visually "realistic" 1930s world.
― Sam Weller, Friday, 14 August 2020 13:42 (two years ago) link
I can't speak to the 1930s, but I can confirm 100% that people were saying "doubling down" in the 1990s. It's not that new.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 14 August 2020 13:51 (two years ago) link
poker has been around for quite some time
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 August 2020 13:55 (two years ago) link
Xps, Maybe after Swingers, but I don’t remember it being used much before then.
Although how can we forget the KFC Double Down sandwich. Maybe Perry will ask Della to order him one of those in S2.
― Sam Weller, Friday, 14 August 2020 17:11 (two years ago) link
Google ngram says it’s been used for a long time but started taking off mid-20th century and really took off circa poker boom. Shockingly, I didn’t see a Swingers bump.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 14 August 2020 17:16 (two years ago) link
Enjoyed this, Rhys is great, Della and Drake too and of course Lithgow
― calstars, Friday, 21 August 2020 01:12 (two years ago) link
Doubling down = blackjack tho
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Friday, 21 August 2020 02:33 (two years ago) link
enjoying this so far. Mason's pretty indelicate at pretty inappropriate times, and seems horrible at being a social animal.
is Shea Whigham contractually obligated to appear in any old timey New York crime show?
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 December 2020 18:00 (two years ago) link
this show takes place around LA, though
― mh, Friday, 25 December 2020 22:06 (two years ago) link
Lol guess i wasn't paying as close attention to the first ep as i shoulda
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 26 December 2020 00:11 (two years ago) link
Google tells me it's still possible to be admitted to the bar in California without a law school degree, if the candidate meets various apprenticeship and testing requirements
Gardner himself had about one month of law school and then studied on his own and passed the California bar exam in 1911
― Brad C., Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:43 AM (five months ago)
Just started watching this show! So only now looking at this thread ... my great great uncle actually was a lawyer in California around the time this show was set and apparently never went to law school. ... He actually ended up as a judge ... so, in summary, it was probably fairly common at the time.
I never read any of the novels but there are a lot of references to other things, that could themselves be references to the source material here ... like, Angels Flight plays a prominent role in one of the Bosch novels, the detective/coroner relationship (and appearance of the morgue) that looks like Chinatown, there was something that reminded me of a James Ellroy scene in passing, and then the bit where Lili Taylor calls Alice (I keep wanting to say Aimee, because the character is based on Aimee Semple, yeah?) her Daughter, and Sister ... like they got a "my sister and my daughter" reference in that I'm doubting was anything but a reference to Chinatown
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 08:04 (two years ago) link
just saw on hbo that s2 starts on monday?
― na (NA), Friday, 3 March 2023 20:47 (two months ago) link
thank God, the world has been holding its breath.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 March 2023 20:55 (two months ago) link
so excited. i love this damn show
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 March 2023 23:13 (two months ago) link
never finished the first season, assumed it wasn't going forward, so now maybe I will
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 4 March 2023 00:36 (two months ago) link
anyone watching s2?enjoying so far, loved della & anita at the boxing match
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 06:03 (two months ago) link
yeah me too. i forgot how much i love watching Rhys act. last one was pretty good considering it was a getting the band back together episode
― Heez, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 14:42 (two months ago) link
I forgot how much I liked this show ... everyone is so enjoyable to watch. The soundtrack (the non-songs) for some reason reminds me of Blade Runner? I could totally be mis-remembering the Blade Runner soundtrack, but there's definitely some iconic LA detective movie that it reminds me of.
― sarahell, Sunday, 23 April 2023 18:13 (one month ago) link
though this show also gives me the same frustration as I had with Transatlantic where I have this urge to look up historical stuff online to look for references / fictionalization.
― sarahell, Sunday, 23 April 2023 18:15 (one month ago) link
It's a good frustration tbh
― sarahell, Sunday, 23 April 2023 18:16 (one month ago) link
its really good, if id to name the vibe its kind of got a black dahlia thing going on, which ofc is itself a stitch of ten other things but
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 April 2023 19:42 (one month ago) link
terence blanchard’s score is incredible, i love it so much. also similar to mrs maisel i love when thry go to a new location, like that amazing mission-style house in palm springs … i like trying to work out from exteriors how much is real & how much is added in, like beach scenes & stuff too i’m finding this season i am having a hard time keeping track of the story threads in this one so i am stressed that there’s only 2 more episodes left
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 April 2023 20:08 (one month ago) link
there aren’t that many story threads? some have kind of gotten short shrift though
― mh, Sunday, 23 April 2023 22:27 (one month ago) link
i didn’t say there were that many, i just can’t keep them in my head well enough to keep up
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 24 April 2023 00:03 (one month ago) link
The show is pretty great overall. They’ve used the N-word several times now though, just seems unnecessary and in bad taste. That never stood out to me in season 1.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 24 April 2023 05:36 (one month ago) link
xxxpost sarahell you’re so otm about the bladerunner-ness of blanchard’s score, i havent stopped thinking about it. some similar qualities for sure it never ceases to amaze me how quickly & unquestioningly perry is up for anything pete suggests. we should go get on that boat. we should jump off, it’s only an hour back to shore. LOLOLOLLalso perry + pete brawl was so fucking good, omg.
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 03:58 (one month ago) link
big lol for me when Perry references the brawl as Drake & Pete start puffing chests and squaring off
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 17:54 (one month ago) link
lol yes that was funnypete’s look was like wtf man
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 20:32 (one month ago) link