Is this anti-semitism?

Jews should just simpley have walked out

Yup. Every.Word. - having instigated the walk out though as a tiny protest was amazed at how massive it grew. They should have all walked out of Europe on mass 1939. X

— Tracy-Ann Oberman (@TracyAnnO) August 8, 2020

Richard Spencer agrees

Was talking with a friend about vampires. The most sure-fire defenses against vampires are crosses and holy water. As a Jewish kid I thought that was really unfair, since I lacked both, and then "Fright Night" comes along and throws in the notion that you may have a cross but it takes *faith* to work. Factor in decades of blood libel tropes and 'bloodsucker" defamation and ... are vampires an anti-semitic construct?

People don’t take antisemitism seriously because they think of Jews as wealthy, and therefore not vulnerable, which is like saying black people shouldn’t be scared of racists because they’re all so athletic.

Wow Freeman just seems so...not smart.

Freeman is really into anti black racism like all white liberals (and all white transphobes it seems)

xp yes to some extent

ditto a lot of satanic/devil related imagery

Huh. https://eportfolios.macaulay.cuny.edu/monsters/2016/11/08/blood-libel-the-anti-semitic-roots-of-vampirism/

I'm sure Polanski had a Jewish vampire in "The Fearless Vampire Killers" for a reason.

Torchwood’s finest with the ‘on mass’ there. Fucking idiot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7xnIzutKm8

ummmm

Protocols of Learned Elders of Zion: https://t.co/BpI5Tc8oKc

— FBI Records Vault (@FBIRecordsVault) August 19, 2020

The fuck?

they seemed to have given a nice reply to every crank who sent them a letter about the jewish conspiracy and kept the files. very weird thing to tweet out

Uh…

all these cop agencies are riddled with actual nazis, therse things aren’t mistakes

*these things

like how often have gov agencies released documents paraphrasing the 14 words

It's a bot that tweets every new addition to the FBI's FOIA reading room. Topics that have has more than a certain number of requests (I think 3 is what they claim) get added to the reading room.

But...

Whoever added this should have taken into account that this needs context.

— David Bixenspan (@davidbix) August 19, 2020

you think?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/aug/26/auschwitz-museum-calls-tiktok-holocaust-trend-hurtful-and-offensive

The short clips feature youths recounting how they died in the Holocaust, and sometimes show them sporting fake bruises, a striped inmate outfit or one of the armbands marked with the Star of David Jews were ordered to wear.

Uhhh.

these numb-headed little fuckwits are the future unfortunately, don't want to live long enough to see them running the show.

Almost two-thirds of young American adults do not know that 6 million Jews were killed during the Holocaust, and more than one in 10 believe Jews caused the Holocaust, a new survey has found, revealing shocking levels of ignorance about the greatest crime of the 20th century.

According to the study of millennial and Gen Z adults aged between 18 and 39, almost half (48%) could not name a single concentration camp or ghetto established during the second world war.

Almost a quarter of respondents (23%) said they believed the Holocaust was a myth, or had been exaggerated, or they weren’t sure. One in eight (12%) said they had definitely not heard, or didn’t think they had heard, about the Holocaust.

...Eleven per cent of respondents across the US believed that Jews had caused the Holocaust, with the proportion in New York state at 19%, followed by 16% in Louisiana, Tennessee and Montana, and 15% in Arizona, Connecticut, Georgia, Nevada and New Mexico.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/16/holocaust-us-adults-study?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

What percent could not find the United States on a map? I know the number is not zero.

It seems like you can come up with literally any dumbass bullshit and the number of American poll respondents who agree with it is at least 20%

I have an extremely right-wing Jewish acquaintance who is now sticking up for Gavin McInnes (Proud Boy creator) and talking about how to get the whole picture you have to ask WHY 1930s Germans hated Jews so much, how it's not like we WEREN'T the driving force behind Communist back-stabbing and though it may make us feel ashamed we should be honest about how we bring the world's hatred on ourselves. God damn it's depressing what's happening to people's minds.

Ugh, that's rough.

that's extremely sad

Ugh, that makes me feel queasy.

It just really gets to me. I have spent my whole life thinking of anti-semitism in the US as a spent and inherently marginal force and now I realize that if Trump has an anti-Semite friend and he gets dinged in the news for it, either millions and millions of people are going to say "I guess that anti-semitism stuff is worth a closer look!"

even you were daft/self-hating/downright racist enough to believe in the Judeo-Bolshevik myth, perhaps maybe the disproportionate amount of prominent party Jews that got murdered in the 30's by Stalin would test the theory a bit, maybe?

if they put all volumes of the Victor Klemperer Dairies on the school curriculum this old poison wouldn't get as much traction

well probably a bit fanciful, but maybe an abridged version instead of Anne Frank.

i believe some people really are bad at heart

I think there's nothing new about Jewish apology for antisemitism though -- it happened in 1920s Germany too!

I vaguely remember a news story, maybe last year about a Jewish nurse or hospital worker in NYC who was posting in antisemitic forums and saying all kinds of self-hating stuff about Jews

Jewish kapos were a thing.

I think there's nothing new about Jewish apology for antisemitism though -- it happened in 1920s Germany too!

"don't get worked up it's nothing they didn't have in interwar Germany" is not exactly comforting my dude

If it helps any (it doesn't), I think I saw a debunking of that Guardian article that explained how the actual survey questions were being distorted in the reporting. Can't find it from vague googling at the mo.

I am 100% less troubled by that Guardian survey than I am by the thought that my acquaintance's new take on Jews is probably typical of the tens-of-millions-strong Trumpsophere. "They kind of deserved it" is a level worse than "It wasn't as bad as they say."

tbf, the typical undertone of "it wasn't as bad as they say" is "but it should have been"

I mean it's not even quite that coherent, it's sort of like "The Jews deserved the holocaust, which didn't happen." It's sort of like abuser logic.

I seem to recall there being an ultra-Orthodox reading of the Shoah according to which it happened because Jews strayed from true Judaism.

Is that related somehow to the ultra-Orthodox rejection of Zionism?

Not quite, but someone who is more knowledgeable on this can correct me if I'm wrong. I think they take issue with Zionism because the Messiah who is meant to gather the Jews back to Israel has yet to arrive, according to them, so they view present-day Israel as a secular, impatient perversion of traditional eschatology (or some such). Of course, there is no shortage of self-professed messiahs in Orthodox Judaism…

Thanks!

Fucking hell.

Joanna, what are your thoughts on the following tweets from Sarah Phillimore?
Comparing Jewish people to dogs, threatening to burn down a synagogue, suggesting Jewish people lacked "common sense"to leave Nazi Germany & comparing trans people to the Holocaust.
Is this acceptable? pic.twitter.com/6asZRN0z0I

— David Paisley (@DavidPaisley) January 26, 2021

My thoughts are that no one including you Mr Paisley should weaponise the Holocaust for their own ends. It is far too serious for that & an insult to the memory of those who died. Should you wish to educate yourself please read this book by @philippesands pic.twitter.com/aLNX80oWZJ

— Joanna Cherry QC (@joannaccherry) January 26, 2021

I do not believe a trans woman is a woman. You cannot change biology whatever you believe.

The tweets I posted contained nothing that any reasonable person could describe as 'hatred'

Here's Sarah P not being hateful in her crowd fund to have a record of her hate deleted.
Note this was pre twitter jail so she also claims twitter don't believe her tweets violate t&cs

Should I know who Sarah Phillimore is?

The context:

Joanna, it was Sarah Phillimore who weaponised the Holocaust.

Here she is comparing trans rights to the Holocaust and harassing a trans person whose relatives died.

Do you support this kind of language? Why do you support this person, both online and financially? pic.twitter.com/tWVdJZzGv6

— David Paisley (@DavidPaisley) January 26, 2021

xp

No :)

She's a barrister who's frequently outspoken on trans issues and has made an arse of herself with holocaust comparisons.

anti-Semitism and transphobia does not seem to have put Joanna Cherry off of supporting her.

Yes, I see it's really about Joanna Cherry.

... who does have an existence outside of Twitter.