then coronavirus happened, 2020 baseball

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Uhhhh what the fuck is this @Athletics @AthleticsPR?? Good on Liam for shutting that shit down but your guy is throwing up a Nazi salute, twice. Don’t care if it’s a joke, that’s not cool. Everyone in that uniform is setting an example, and this is bullshit. pic.twitter.com/YnllNST2Py

— Robert (@robert_etc) August 6, 2020

mookieproof, Friday, 7 August 2020 00:26 (three years ago) link

wtf

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Friday, 7 August 2020 00:35 (three years ago) link

I had to do a double take when I saw Bundy’s line. Who is even going 9 innings right now?!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 7 August 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link

you can read the replies this time

MLB has announced schedule changes for a number of teams that have been affected by postponements: pic.twitter.com/TSnZ9N6uzf

— Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) August 6, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 August 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link

A plane banner reading "Houston Asterisks" will fly over the Coliseum in Oakland before the Astros game today

— 2020 Astros Shame Tour (@AsteriskTour) August 7, 2020

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 7 August 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link

*settles in after a hard week of work*

alright, ready for the cardinals to finally play a game tonight, here we go boys

oh

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Friday, 7 August 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link

guess i'll go paint a plant, fuck

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Friday, 7 August 2020 21:46 (three years ago) link

Zack Greinke must really hate his teammates 😂 pic.twitter.com/efuA8zQaEA

— The Rickey Henderson of Blogs (@RickeyBlog) August 8, 2020

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 8 August 2020 03:12 (three years ago) link

This DETvPIT game is insane.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 8 August 2020 03:29 (three years ago) link

wow finish in Oakland last night with A's coming from behind in the 13th to beat Houston

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 August 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

Did they start with a man on second 4 innings in a row??

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 8 August 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

they did; neither team scored in the 10th-12th

https://www.espn.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=401225875

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 August 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

I'm surprised more teams aren't rostering something like an "extra-innings" specialist PH:

High speed, bunt/IF-chop for a hit, moves the runner to 3rd and mitigates the double play risk for the following batter.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 8 August 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link

lol they both successfully bunted the runner over to begin the 10th; didn't try that again

i love when a ghost runner game runs 4:13

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 August 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

sorry, I think it needs to be less of a sacrifice situation but more of a bunt-for-a-hit pure-speed play. Because 0-outs, men on 1st & 3rd and SB-speed on 1st = 90+% run-probability.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 8 August 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link

So, the #Cardinals, if they are to play a 60-game schedule, now would have to play 55 games in 49 days. That assumes they play the Pirates Monday, far from a given. https://t.co/eyHxQNYMWa

— Mark Saxon (@markasaxon) August 7, 2020

guy who knows anything at all about covid19 voice: there's no fucking way they play monday's game

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Saturday, 8 August 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

MLB is on record that they are fine with some teams playing <60 games

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 August 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

This DETvPIT game is insane.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, August 7, 2020 8:29 PM (yesterday)

omg haha, they are continuing where they left off...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 8 August 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link

Altuve commits his 3rd error... of the inning. twitterers say he's officially rattled.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 8 August 2020 22:18 (three years ago) link

It’s too late for me to make any money on this or win the bold prediction lottery but I could totally see a team approaching 40 wins in this... event. Between variance and the ongoing threat of death I can see a bunch of high end players just vanishing or developing “symptoms” if the team starts 10-20 or something like that

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 8 August 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link

W. Yacksel Ríos

Andy K, Saturday, 8 August 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link

Playoff spots are determined by winning percentage, so it can be an advantage to miss some games -- fewer games = less regression to the mean. There is no way that the Cards will be forced to make up more than seven games. Cue the controversy when a 30-30 team misses the playoff cut and a 26-25 team makes it in.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 9 August 2020 11:03 (three years ago) link

Guys I think there might be an asterisk over this season

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 9 August 2020 11:46 (three years ago) link

madison bumgarner: 17.1 IP, 7 HR, 8.62 FIP, hardest-thrown pitch today was 87.7

mookieproof, Monday, 10 August 2020 05:20 (three years ago) link

one day i'll write up a whole thing about how the "if you throw 650 innings before age 24 your arm won't make it to 30" thing is very real

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Monday, 10 August 2020 05:54 (three years ago) link

(unless you're sutton or maddux or blyleven and you didn't really need your velocity anyway)

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Monday, 10 August 2020 05:59 (three years ago) link

Wasnt Maddux a hard thrower for the first half of his career?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 10 August 2020 06:09 (three years ago) link

not really, the most generous sources i can find say he occasionally hit 93 in the beginning. his velo still dropped and it didn't matter because he's greg maddux.

i'm hopeful that kershaw can last 5 or 6 more years off his wits and ability to evolve, assuming he can stay off the IL

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Monday, 10 August 2020 06:25 (three years ago) link

Hitting 93 in the late 80's/early 90's meant you were a power pitcher! Not many guys threw harder than that, but he didn't become dominant until he found his control and started winning Cy Youngs every year. By that time, he understood that he didn't need to throw hard to succeed.

Bumgarner's velo might go up as the season goes on (he wouldn't be the only guy messed up by the short July "spring" training) but the move from Oracle Park to Chase Field isn't going away.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 10 August 2020 13:20 (three years ago) link

Clemens and Seaver threw a lot of innings early, but they were under your 650 threshold, and are obviously exceptions anyway.

clemenza, Monday, 10 August 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link

The league OBP is .311, which would be the lowest since 1972, another year that led to an important rules change. Since the rubber was set at 60'6" in 1893, there have been just 11 seasons of lower OBP.

— Joe Sheehan (@joe_sheehan) August 10, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 August 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link

I wonder if the notion of a 60-game season (and prospect of an even shorter one) is causing hitters to press a little, knowing you can put up some big small-sample numbers

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 10 August 2020 14:07 (three years ago) link

One last note: Until 2018, there had never been a season with more strikeouts than hits. In 2020, strikeouts are now 17% more common than hits.

— Joe Sheehan (@joe_sheehan) August 10, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 August 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link

High speed, bunt/IF-chop for a hit, moves the runner to 3rd and mitigates the double play risk for the following batter.

those guys generally make the starting lineup though

frogbs, Monday, 10 August 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link

Just opened it up, haven't read it--baseball-related piece from Christgau.

https://robertchristgau.substack.com/p/quarantine-me-to-the-ball-game?r=1jtu0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=copy

clemenza, Monday, 10 August 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

those guys generally make the starting lineup though

― frogbs, Monday, August 10, 2020 7:12 AM (two hours ago)

The "You Can't Steal 1st" crew:
Mallex Smith, Alex Engel, Derek Fisher, et al.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 10 August 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

Hitting 93 in the late 80's/early 90's meant you were a power pitcher! Not many guys threw harder than that, but he didn't become dominant until he found his control and started winning Cy Youngs every year. By that time, he understood that he didn't need to throw hard to succeed.

that's what i mean though, if you can learn to pitch without power you can probably escape the curse on your arm. blyleven sutton and maddux were the three really big exceptions on the big list, and none of them relied on throwing heat to succeed.
Bumgarner's velo might go up as the season goes on (he wouldn't be the only guy messed up by the short July "spring" training) but the move from Oracle Park to Chase Field isn't going away.

a 3 mile drop is a lot to recover from and could just mean he's dealing with an injury. but that's another thing, a lot of pitchers who put that much stress on their arms that young just can't keep their arms healthy at all.

valenzuela and drysdale are the models for most hot young things

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Monday, 10 August 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

Clemens and Seaver threw a lot of innings early, but they were under your 650 threshold, and are obviously exceptions anyway.

― clemenza, Monday, August 10, 2020 10:02 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

it's boras corp's number, though i remember reading about it plenty on fangraphs before that (maybe not with the exact 650/24 cutoff). i've been interested in it since then - there seems to be a lot of truth to it and if a team has any concern for their young pitchers' careers (they don't lol) they should follow it hard

i'm interested in how minor league/college ball fits in though. i've never really bought the idea that those innings aren't as hard on a pitcher's arm, at least before modern times when teams are more cautious

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Monday, 10 August 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

minor leaguers are kept on very short leashes, but there are different incentives at work in college.

nc state had carlos rodon throw 134 pitches on short rest in 2014 and had him pitch 132 innings the year before that at age 20. you probably can't directly blame those facts, but he has had a *lot* of injury problems

mookieproof, Monday, 10 August 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link

lol

Mets starter Marcus Stroman has opted out of the 2020 season. He has accrued enough service time to reach free agency this winter. He'll do so not having thrown a big league pitch this year.

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) August 10, 2020

mookieproof, Monday, 10 August 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link

2020 bases-on-balls:

Carlos Santana (1B, CLE): 23 (17 GP)
The entire Washington Nationals team: 27 (12 GP)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link

.188/.451/.250 is quite a line

mookieproof, Monday, 10 August 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link

Mike Clevinger will not make his scheduled start Tuesday against the Cubs after violating health and safety protocols this past weekend in Chicago.
Clevinger reportedly went out in Chicago on Saturday night with fellow Indians starter Zach Plesac, who had to take a rental car back to Cleveland once word of his violation came to light. Clevinger instead flew home on the team charter, after sitting through a meeting about Plesac's transgression on Sunday. Clevinger, like Plesac, will be quarantined for 72 hours and tested daily. Adam Plutko is going to take the mound in his place on Tuesday at Progressive Field versus the visiting Cubs. Clevinger could slot back in this weekend in Detroit.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 03:07 (three years ago) link

And after another St. Louis player tested positive, the Cardinals’ series against the visiting Pittsburgh Pirates, which was to have run Monday through Wednesday, was postponed Sunday. On Monday, MLB announced that St. Louis’s doubleheader at the Detroit Tigers on Thursday also had been postponed. The Cardinals have not played since July 29; 17 members of the organization (10 players and seven staff members) have tested positive since last week.

Manager Mike Shildt revealed Sunday that some members of the organization have had to seek treatment in an emergency room after experiencing symptoms. John Mozeliak, the team’s president of baseball operations, said one player and one staff member had gone to a hospital, but neither was admitted for treatment and both are at home.

“There are people that have symptoms and have had a few visits to the ER for some IVs and a little more clarity,” Shildt said during an interview with KMOX Radio. “Nobody has had to stay [in the hospital]. But there are people dealing with — I mean, this is real. And people are experiencing a lot of the symptoms that we hear about, that are associated with this. A variety of them. Most of them are experiencing multiple ones. Seems like they rotate with them. And, again, nobody is in close to any critical shape, but people are having to deal with some things that aren’t comfortable at all.”

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 06:10 (three years ago) link

'you went to the emergency room? what??'

'i needed a little more clarity'

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 08:10 (three years ago) link

Plesac and Clevinger to Francona and Carrasco: Drop Dead

Andy K, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 13:07 (three years ago) link

Wearing a neck gaiter may be worse than no mask at all, researchers find

...“These neck gaiters are extremely common in a lot of places because they’re very convenient to wear,” he said. “But the exact reason why they’re so convenient, which is that they don’t restrict air, is the reason why they’re not doing much of a job helping people.”

The high droplet count could be linked to the neck gaiter’s porous fabric breaking up bigger particles into many little ones that are more likely to hang around in the air longer, Fischer said in the video. This effect makes wearing them possibly “counterproductive,” he added.

“It’s not the case that any mask is better than nothing,” he said. “There are some masks that actually hurt rather than do good.”

https://i.imgur.com/vWmX7Pt.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/pI29DnS.jpg

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

i'm unhappy with the word 'gaiter'

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 15:28 (three years ago) link

me too. i didn't know what it was until reading that article, but somehow i immediately knew which kind of mask it referred to

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link


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