Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

pure poetry, imo

i'd move right now to New Zealand if they'd let any outsiders in.

Finally convinced my daughter to watch Thor, and I'm glad, because I had forgotten almost everything about it except that I thought it was dull, which is ironic, because while I had forgotten almost everything about it, it was absolutely not dull and in fact was pretty enjoyable!

Potential double irony, the only thing I remember about Thor 2 was enjoying it more than most, which probably means when I watch it again, with my daughter, I will remember most of it but *not* enjoy it.

Nope, definitely still enjoyed Thor 2! Some good gags in it, and I think Thor (and Loki) really comes into his own post-Avengers.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/disney-grapples-with-how-to-proceed-on-black-panther-without-chadwick-boseman

amazing that they didn't know he was ill. i imagine they'll move forward with Shuri as the black panther now?

yeah it's mind-blowing even Coogler didn't know

just losing my whole shit over this information pic.twitter.com/Q8d0liIeiq

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I genuinely don’t know who any of those people/institutions are

Chris Pratt used to be on the "the Democratic Party is the best hope for a loving America" sitcom Parks & Recreation and is now Star-Lord in Marvel movies. Turning Point USA is a far-right student radicalisation psy-op that attempts to stamp out education in unversities by #cancelling professors. Dan Crenshaw is a Republican senator and ex-Navy SEAL who is virulently against women's healthcare, affordable healthcare, voters' rights, taking action against climate change (we should establish comittees to research whether there's any validity to it, from scratch) and probably a piece of shit in various other ways. Lorne Michaels forced Pete Davidson to apologise to Crenshaw, face to face, on SNL's Weekend Update, for making a joke about him on Weekend Update in a previous episode.

Dunno who the other two are.

Pratt is also married to a Schwarzenegger, and an adherent of an Australian evangelical mega-church that obstructed police investigation into their founder's multinational child molestation, and runs (or ran) conversion programs for lesbian teens, and pregnancy consultation centres that recruit teens to work camps.

Oh i know pratt, its the rest i didnt know. He married Schwarzenegger’s daughter, right? Why would anyone think he is not conservative?

Wow, didn't realize that Lorne's spine had dissolved completely.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/06/17/brandon-tatum-white-privilege/

Why would anyone think he is not conservative?

People's parasocial concept of him was probably set when he played a loveable goof on an anti-GOP sitcom about the value of caring and helping one another, and was married to someone who made stoner comedy movies

Davidson & Crenshaw btw

he was also married to Anna Faris for a while, think a lotta people jumped off his boat when they split

I don't know how this slipped by me, but it looks like Jonathan Majors (star of Lovecraft Country) has been cast as Kang in the third Ant-Man movie, of all things.

And I assume everyone who cares has already heard that Tatiana Maslany was cast as She-Hulk.

I only care in that I'm 1. glad she's getting paid and 2. wish it was for anything else

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didn't know, happy to hear! that's about as good of a casting as i could hope for.

She's fine, though I would've been happy with the earlier rumors of Alison Brie for She-Hulk

i mean it could've been janelle monae
i imagine she'll do an x-man

happy for the person who is funny on an improv comedy podcast to have a job, but would have been a good opportunity to cast a tall & bulky actress who doesn't normally get the chance to play leads / romantic leads / celebratedly slutty leads

“funny on an improv comedy podcast” as a descriptor for Maslany is on some Herzog is “good at eating shoes” career summary shit

I only know the Slott and Byrne versions of Shulk, which are both comedy, and I only know Maslay from her annual CBB appearances

(though I guess I saw her on Parks & Rec and Being Erica, she didn't make an impact that I would think of her ten years later as a horny lawyer or seven-foot-tall muscle pile)

Opinions are likely divided on the quality of Orphan Black but one indisputable fact is that Maslany was AMAZING on that show. I was regularly flabbergasted by how easily I forgot that one actress was portraying a multitude of different characters.

At any rate, this is just another Ruffalo sitch. It's probably easier to CGI a Hulked-out Maslany than to scrawnify some massive beefcake MMA fighter.

the Marvel films I saw had Hulk changing back and forth from Hulk to Banner, though

sic, you're overthinking this: maslany has made the best work in her career playing split personalities and is spectacularly good at it.

She-Hulk is not a split personality, though... That's the major character point separating her from Bruce Banner: she doesn't lose her personality when hulking out, and actually enjoys being the Hulk. Though of course they might not use that interpretation of her in the MCU, but it'd be pretty boring if they go for the "like Hulk but female" option.

Maslany is a more impressive actor than Alison Brie, by a long shot. and I like both.

Or at least she's gotten far more impressive showcases (esp Orphan Black, obviously)

And I agree with Sic, that this would've been a great opportunity to cast some bulky actor who doesn't normally get this kind of roles... But it wasn't done with Wonder Woman, so I guess it's no surprise it wasn't done with Shulkie either.

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yeah Tuomas has it, it would considerably pointlessize She-Hulk to make her a split personality

You should the last 3 or so years of She-Hulk in comics... not that I'm advocating 'em. Wish Tamaki's run had done more with it.

Yeah, I rather doubt they are going with the Byrne take for the movie

I've read Tamaki's run, and as much as like her indie comics, IMO it was a pretty pointless deviation from how She-Hulk had been previously depicted since at least the '80s. Taking a female character who has power, who likes having that power and who's self-assured and confident, and making her into a more Bruce Banner -like figure who's full of self-doubt and who sees her power as a curse, was a weird step backwards, and I'm hoping they won't be basing the MCU depiction on that... But didn't even Tamaki's run end with the return of the previous version of She-Hulk, once she got her issues sorted?

Yeah I'm with you on that. Love her indie stuff, her X-23 series was fine, and I'm still interested in her future mainstream work. Hopefully the Wonder Woman run she's doing now pans out.

The whole thing was a weird filler after Bruce Banner was killed in Civil War II, before coming back as the Immortal Hulk (which is consistently still excellent). The concept wasn't bad - Jen dealing with the trauma of his murder and the courts/world acquitting Hawkeye of it, since most people hated the Hulk - but the book didn't really missed a lot of opportunities on that front. Also having a rageful female Hulk - could've been interesting. And yes, they reverted her to normal at the end.

BUT - after that, Jason Aaron put her into his Avengers run, and she was green again but also classic Hulk stupid, and possibly trapped in that form? And she's hooking up with Thor. They ignored Tamaki's run altogether, it seems. I don't know if they ever got around to explaining how she got to this state. They also seemed to ignore the whole Immortal situation which would seem relevant, but maybe I missed it.

if you did, then i did too.
Marvel Movies proper hasn't really properly done a full-film look at the jekyll/hyde thing and she-hulk seems a fair way to do it, plus female rage is selling right now.

It's probably only because Universal still owns the Hulk movie rights. (Was also kinda wondering a She-Hulk series is OK, but I just checked and she debuted in her own book rather than Incredible Hulk)

I think She-Hulk is going to be a D+ tv series, no?

If you're lucky.

lol

Well well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj9J2ecsSpo

Well that looks cool as shit

Yeah I almost think the totally unplanned shift for the MCU to be TV-focused for a while may be a hell of a good thing, based on this.

Fred Melamed klaxon!

i assumed this was the tom king storyline but i guess they're going House of M instead? I would've thought that was a bad idea but this looks pretty intelligent. Outrageously good cast!

https://news.avclub.com/tatiana-maslany-says-shes-not-disney-s-she-hulk-actual-1845402493

obviously it's not in any way important but it's always nice when someone I respect doesn't get hoovered up into the MCU